Personally, I think we need to dig out and build down to the field. We have to have more sideline space than any stadium I've ever been to. I just got back
from a high school football camp at Troy State and I would absolutely love to have stands as close as they do. Every stadium I've been to in the SEC was
twice as close. I think it would improve the atmosphere tremendously.
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we need more of the elevators similar to the ones the D-II schools incorporate. centralized vending locations, i like the way the surrounding tailgating area
has recently developed and is getting as good as The Grove, and what does Jackie Wayne Sherrill have to do with any of this?
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Posts: 2081 06/23/09 09:37 PM The General |
they don't tailgate in the Grove. They picnic.
Secondly, just stop. Please.
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Make it a bowl. Period. | #23 | ||
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I don't give a shit about the west side bathrooms, or being too far away from the field, or any of that. I want to not be the smallest stadium in the SEC
anymore. I want a stadium that recruits will be impressed by (in a good way) when they're standing on the field, and will look good on TV. The rest is
window dressing to me.
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vh dawg |
I would simply like.... | #25 | ||
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Posts: 4890 06/24/09 12:27 AM Your Guitar Hero |
....to walk up to the West Side concession stand above Section B, and for ONCE see that the game on the TV above it is the same game occurring on the field
behind me, and not the local Northland Cable game-of-the-week.
We absolutely are the only SEC school that shows other people's games on the tv's at the concession stands.
-VH
"I'm so depressed I can't even blink." - Bill Dauterive "This certainly is not acceptable at the University of Florida. We've got to get better." - Florida AD Jeremy Foley, 10/23/2004 "I've watched tons of football and I made a 24 on the English section of my ACT, so watch who you're calling dumbass, dubmass. Queer." -BiggerFeces GO STATE!! |
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coco wrote: I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. /The Grove //I need to go take my morning Massive Dump |
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vh dawg wrote: a much needed addition to a first class gaming experience. And no more bullshit college dorm TV's strapped on one of those drilled in shelves |
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We aren't the smallest stadium in the sec.... | #28 | ||
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Posts: 6567 06/24/09 08:48 AM Message Board Hero |
and frankly, I don't know that any plan to bowl will leap our capacity over anyone in front of us. Maybe ole miss but that would require about 6K
additional seats. Any North end zone plan is going to set us back about 1,500 seats initially by getting rid of Starkville High's stadium in the end zone
so we'd have to add about 7,500 in seating. I don't see that happening. I see a minimal bowl like Clemson that will provide the opportunity for more
luxury seating.
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Posts: 39 06/24/09 10:04 AM |
Ok, so Vanderbilt's stadium is smaller than ours, but what do you expect from a university who's football program is a part of the intramural sports
department. However, if we built two levels of seating, with club level/luxury boxes in the middle, in the north EZ and a single level of seats in the south
EZ (all done in stages), it would substantially increase our capacity. I think that increasing capacity is much more important that all the other proposed
improvements because it's the only improvement that will generate more $ to pay for all the other things that people want changed.
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We don't need all that capacity... | #30 | ||
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Posts: 6569 06/24/09 10:06 AM Message Board Hero |
add about net 3K more seats in the north endzone and then stack a ton of luxury seating on top of that. That will be plenty.
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8Dog wrote: Dammit, how many times do I have to say this. Does nobody remember what it was like before the Sherrill-era DWS expansion? We weren't selling out Scott Field every game either. But we expanded the stadium and what happened - we consistently brought in number far greater than what the pre-DWS expansion would have held. And that's saying a lot considering how ugly football got the next 6 years. I guaran-damn-tee you if we put up a signifigant stadium expansion, we'd continue to bring in big crowds - bigger than what we currently get at DWS. |
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and on top of that, we have one of the smallest fanbases in the SEC, so it stands to reason we would have a smaller stadium. What's more impressive to a
recruit? an 80k seat stadium with 20k empty seats? or a jam-packed 60k seat stadium that's loud because everyone is right on top of the action?
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Posts: 2436 06/24/09 10:12 AM |
Exactly. This is why the #1 priority at DWS is to significantly upgrade the west side chair backs to transform that area into a club level. People with seats
there now with either pay the additional money or those on the club level waiting list with be give the opportunity.
I'm not stubborn enough to say, 'This is our offense, this is what we're doing,' even if we don't have the personnel to run it.--Dan
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We all know that, but you can't just keep expanding based on that... | #34 | ||
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eventually the crowds simply aren't going to get larger.
We cannot sell out the stadium we have now unless we are good and we play an opponent that travels well. And if it becomes a real problem, we can just add general seating to the south endzone. But there is no reason to have a bunch of general seating that is going to be empty far more often than its filled. |
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Posts: 40 06/24/09 10:25 AM |
I don't care about the the specifics of general seating vs. club level seating. It's long been shown that increasing capacity results in increased
attendance. With a higher capacity, you get a lot more options for affordable ticket packages that bring in more people. A secondary benefit of a bowl is
that it traps more on the sound that the crowd makes inside the stadium instead of allowing it to escape through the open endzones. Imagine what it would
sound like with even 65-70k fans screaming and ringing cowbells in an enclosed bowl. I'd be impressed.
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dawgstudent |
So you want us to have more seats... | #36 | ||
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Posts: 17075 06/24/09 10:28 AM The Godfather |
and sell cheaper season tickets? That's not a recipe for success as far as an athletic budget is concerned.
I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and the Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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MSUCostanza wrote:....so think small, stay small. |
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I'm not talking about lowering prices across the board. I'm talking about introducing more ticket options. Like the option to attend only certain
games. 2,3, or 4 game packages and things like that (don't we already have a 3 game package or something like that?). Group rate discounts for high
schools, churches, etc. That kind of stuff.
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Good point. LSU does that too.** | #39 | ||
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Posts: 17076 06/24/09 11:06 AM The Godfather |
and we still can't sell out. I think, and Greg Byrne has said this, that any addition will be built with premium seating(suites, club level) provided.
And most of us are saying, we should limit the amount of general admission and I agree. You realize we have only sold out our stadium once since the expansion
(Bama 2007). Of course, winning helps put people in the stands but there is no way we can expand by adding a lot of general seating unless we win first. The
premium seating will be sold regardless of our record and I think plans for an expansion will come out in about 2 years.
The other thing to take into consideration is that we have the new video board. I imagine they would not want to market premium seats that would not be able to see the board not including the existing suites and club levels that can't see it.
I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and the Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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