Mississippi State Football 2009 Prediction
[Note: I never got around to actually reading what they wrote.]
[Note: I never got around to actually reading what they wrote.]
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Awesome football prediction site [link] |
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Posts: 2040 06/17/09 07:05 AM |
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 rebelrouseri |
Some thoughts..... | #1 | ||
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Posts: 1394 06/17/09 08:30 AM |
There's enough on the roster and a favorable schedule to contend for a bowl.Its a tough schedule not a favorable one. This 4-8 team in 2008 was very close to winning more game on more than once occasion.Grammar aside, you also won two games (Ark. and Vandy) by a narrow margin. 
Niiiiiiice.
She can't talk!
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Wooderson |
who is chris harris, our new receiver | #2 | ||
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Posts: 29 06/17/09 08:47 AM |
man, i used to love reading any and all previews, but the ignorance coming out of the media these days is alarming. absolutely no real research is being done.
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RebelBruiser |
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Posts: 3821 06/17/09 08:50 AM Literally a Cocksucker
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Not to go too Phil Steele on you, but I think that's a valid point. When I look at a season, I like to look at how a team did in its tight games to see if
they were really that good/bad, or they were just lucky/unlucky. State was 2-2 in games decided by 7 points or less last year, so it's hard to argue that
they were better than the 4-8 record indicated.
Florida, for example was 13-1 last year, and they were 0-1 in games decided by 7 points or less. They were obviously for real. Ohio State's 2002 undefeated national title team was 7-0 in games decided by 7 points or fewer. They were a team that needed a lot of breaks to get their title. |
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tilla |
This is not the media | #4 | ||
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Posts: 6 06/17/09 08:58 AM |
This is some dude running a gambling blog.
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jmbeck |
Including a bullshit pass interference call. | #5 | ||
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Posts: 1267 06/17/09 08:59 AM |
Ohio State's 2002 undefeated national title team was 7-0 in games decided by 7 points or fewer. They were a team that needed a lot of breaks to get their title. If I were a Miami fan, that game would still piss me off to the point of punching babies. |
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Bdog9090 |
Is there any way someone can do a cut/copy job | #6 | ||
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Posts: 312 06/17/09 09:04 AM |
or a recap of the article for those of us at work where gambling sites are blocked?
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Wooderson |
but you also have to take each situation individually | #7 | ||
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Posts: 30 06/17/09 09:12 AM |
let's face it, had MSU had a coach that wasn't holding them back, the vanderbilt game would have been more like 24-7, and the arkansas game would have
been 31 or 38-14. that's as close to fact as it can be. Croom was that bad on gameday. Not to mention we would have beaten LTech, Auburn and UK. We
legitimately held our selves back through coaching. It really wasn't even player blunders. It was the head man. but we hired him, so we get to live with
it.
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BriantheDawg |
The thing is.. | #8 | ||
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Posts: 2035 06/17/09 10:03 AM |
If we'd have had a field goal kicker, we win the Auburn and Kentucky games undoubtedly. I don't buy the 'well, you won 2 other close games, so your
record evened out' argument. If we had won those close games on the road, then maybe yes, you could say that, but the fact is if we had a fg kicker last
year, we win those 2 games and finish 6-6. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the season played out like it did because we got a new coach out of it, but we
were realistically a kicker from going to a Bowl last year. If we had a coach that wasn't a complete and utter dumbass, we win the La Tech game too and
finish 7-5. Fortunately for us though, the season turned out like it did.
Thank you, Mr. Greg Byrne.
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Posts: 3822 06/17/09 10:15 AM Literally a Cocksucker
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I understand what you're saying, but you're still playing the IF game. In the Auburn game, Auburn missed 2 FGs. Your kicker missed 1. So it more than
evened out, plus you got outgained by about 200 yards. You had no business winning that game.
The difference in the UK game was the extra point, but both kickers missed a FG in that one. In the Arkansas game, they missed 2 FGs. You missed 1, and you won it by 3 points. Point being, you won't get all of those breaks in most cases, and if you do, your record will not accurately reflect how good you were as a team. You got all those breaks in 2007. In 2008, they evened out. |
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drunkernhelldawg |
That would have given us two winning seasons in a row | #10 | ||
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Posts: 721 06/17/09 10:22 AM |
You would have wanted a new coach? That's not credible. If you still would have wanted Croom gone after two winning seasons (following the horrendous six
we had endured before) then your reason has to do with something other than football or coaching.
I hope our new coach is great and all, but we got some tough games down the road before that is determined. |
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Wooderson |
fact is | #11 | ||
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Posts: 31 06/17/09 10:26 AM |
Croom did a lot of things right behind the scenes. We were very competitive other than his dumbassness on gameday and it's a shame. we are all fired up
about mullen, but i just hope he does the things croom did behind the scenes AND does the gameday stuff well too.
think about it. We were good enough to make bowls under Croom. He tangibly held us back. that's what rebelbruiser is refusing to acknowledge. |
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jackobee |
Here you go | #12 | ||
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Posts: 69 06/17/09 10:28 AM |
Mississippi State Football Predictions 2009Written June 16, 2009 by InfoPlays
Offense: Coach Mullen has stated that he wants a dozen or so receivers to get playing time to keep players fresh. Injuries in the spring prevented this from happening, but by August this problem should on on the road to a solution. Of the seven receivers signed, the most likely recipients of significant playing time will be Chad Bumphis, Chris Harris and junior college transfer Leon Berry. The key will be capitalizing immediately on this recruiting class. Tyler Russel, Mississippi's Mr. Football in 2008, will be given every chance to win the starting quarterback spot. Tyson Lee is the incumbent starter, but at 5-10 his lack of height has long been considered a problem, especially in this spread attack. Finding a running back is not a concern, unlike other positions on offense. Anthony Dixon, who has a 1,000-yard season under his belt, is primed to be the showcase of the offense. The line was a trouble spot last year, and it will need to show improvement if Mullen's spread is to show improvement on the ground or in the air. |
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Posts: 3823 06/17/09 10:37 AM Literally a Cocksucker
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Wooderson wrote: He held you back because he didn't bring in enough talent, and he didn't develop it well enough, which means you just weren't good. I just refuse to believe you had enough talent to win 7 or 8 games without a little luck on your side. You got flat out destroyed on both the scoreboard and the stat column in 4 of your games last year. Decent, talented teams don't get destroyed like that just because of poor coaching. You honestly got dominated in the Auburn and LSU games too in the stat column. You were just fortunate that they didn't capitalize more to make those games uglier. Again, you went 4-0 in close games in 2007, and you went 2-2 in 2008. That was the primary difference between the two seasons. One year, your record made it look like your team was better than it really was. The other year, your record was a pretty accurate reflection of how good you were. Having a different coach wasn't going to make Tyson Lee or Wesley Carroll SEC caliber QBs. I'll admit he wasn't the best gameday coach, but a lot of his problems were related to his inability to bring in enough talent to win. See your OL, your receivers, and your QBs last year. |
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patdog |
No. We were good enough to make one bowl under Crxxm. We weren't good enough to make bowls. | #14 | ||
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Posts: 11599 06/17/09 10:43 AM |
Wooderson wrote:The simple fact is we were damn lucky to make the one bowl we did in 2007 under him and it would have taken a repeat of that kind of luck for us to make a bowl in 2008 under him. We didn't get lucky in 2008 like we did in 2007 and we finished with the record we deserved. Bruiser is right that our talent level right now is very, very bad. We probably have the least talent on this team today (excluding incoming signees) as we've had at any time since the mid-1980s. |
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Mutt the Hoople |
What the??? | #15 | ||
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Posts: 1361 06/17/09 10:46 AM King of Pointless Knowledge
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Tyson Lee is the incumbent starter, but at 5-10 his lack of height has long been considered a problem, especially in this spread
attack.
Lee is 5-7 in '70's disco shoes. 
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Posts: 32 06/17/09 11:03 AM |
RebelBruiser wrote: This is why it is hard to take your take on this situation seriously. in bold there, is the definition of bias. You're point in the earlier posts is trying to say we got the breaks one year, and not the next. i can understand that. but you blew it out of the water here. |
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Posts: 33 06/17/09 11:06 AM |
sort of like our baseball conversation last night, i disagree with the view point. QB and WR i full heartedly agree with you on, even though Tyson Lee was not
our problem last year. other than that i think we are OK. Croom always motivated us for the wrong games. many of the rebel fans are basing their opinion on
the eggbowl, and who can blame them, i would too if i was them, it suits their agenda. But we weren't 45 points worse than them last year. And they were
very very hot at the end of the year, playing about as well as any team i've ever seen.
To add to that, you also cannot judge Ole Miss's entire season on a four game run. Nor can you judge their 2009 season on it, although it's very easy to do. |
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wbc40 |
Well, Bruiser believes we won the West on a missed FG | #18 | ||
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Posts: 175 06/17/09 11:09 AM |
He just tries a lot harder to mask his bias on this board.
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patdog |
The bottom line is it's a statistical fact that over time, | #19 | ||
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Posts: 11600 06/17/09 11:28 AM |
every team's and every coach's record in close games is going to trend towards .500. We went 2-2 in close games last year. So we've got no room
to bitch about how we really weren't as bad as our 4-8 record indicated. We were. Sure we could have caught a break in the Auburn or Kentucky games, but
Vandy or Arkansas could have just as easily caught a break in those games. Another way to look at it is that if you start saying that every team that was just
a few points short in a couple of games away from being bowl eligible, you'd wind up with damn near 100 teams that were "good enough to go to a
bowl."
You are correct about Mississippi though. Way too many people are jumping on their bandwagon based on a very strong last few games of the season. I fully expect them to be good again next year, but I'll be very surprised if they finish anywhere near as high as many people are predicting them to. |
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WestCoastBulldog |
Does anyone know... | #20 | ||
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Posts: 194 06/17/09 11:35 AM |
who that chick with the MSU shirt on is?
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