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dawgstudent	This is still sickening...		Lead	[-]
Posts: 16840 06/04/09 07:50 AM The Godfather	Tags : None From Gene's interview with Greg Byrne... What about the baseball stadium? "We have big issues with Dudy Noble. What are we going to do with all the chair backs, the skyboxes, the bleacher seats? We are still a couple of years away from doing anything significantly with those. Every time it rains the hallways flood in the skyboxes. The restrooms need work. The locker rooms are showing their age. The press box is also showing its age." http://mississippistate.scout.com/2/869430.html I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and the Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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RobbieRandolph	Rip them down along with the press box...	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 428 06/04/09 08:00 AM	And re-build skybozes, the press box, and a club level. I really like Ole Miss' club level the built, but I would still want to have private suites like we do now. 6pack needs to start taking some of our money from the chest, stop buying DS televisions and instead start loading up on powerball lotto tickets. A fool proof plan.
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cowbell9	I was at a crawfish boil last Friday and talked with an.......	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6148 06/04/09 08:02 AM	AD employee. Indicated the same thing. DNF is 4th on the list. BBall practice/DWS west side upgrade/ Track upgrade then DNF. Just the way it be. "A loss will be good for us in the long run" Frances Drebin "I've had a handfull of man-crushes with players" Rebelbruiser 1/30/08
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Todd4State	The silver lining here	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5180 06/04/09 08:05 AM	is that we have an AD that realizes that there is a problem, and that he will fix it. LT tried to destroy our baseball program- intentional or not. While I have no proof other than my gut feeling, I really at least halfway believe that he had the deck in RF rigged to collapse so that he could say that the LFL was hazardous and shut it down. LT sold the masses on "We still have the best baseball field in the country" and they bought it and Polk did nothing to try to fix any of it either. Polk had the power to get at least some of that stuff fixed, or at the very least bring it to people's attention. I should send Greg Byrne a Christmas card for dethroneing Polk and his band of merry men and banishing them to Jonesboro, Arkansas where no one gives a crap. I can't wait until Cohen bans, cuts, executes, or graduates the rest of Polk's players so that we will have a team that will go out there and win. I miss seeing good players at MSU. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen "This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen
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Paper Dog	You are correct on your short list	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 976 06/04/09 08:12 AM	New Softball Field completes the top five
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futaba	that's a crazy gut you've got on you..............	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2370 06/04/09 08:19 AM	While I have no proof other than my gut feeling, I really at least halfway believe that he had the deck in RF rigged to collapse so that he could say that the LFL was hazardous and shut it down. that's taking LT hatred to unexplored territory.
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Todd4State	I know	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5182 06/04/09 08:26 AM	but I wouldn't put it past him. I had heard that LT wasn't very fond of the LFL because it was "a fire hazard". "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen "This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen
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futaba	you're correct........	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2371 06/04/09 08:58 AM	in that LT wasn't fond of LFL. However, his main concerns were aesthetics and liability. He never appreciated the atmosphere, which is a shame. Also, everytime he looked out there, he probably envisioned one of the rigs crashing down and killing somebody - and then the athletic dept writing a huge check. Thus, he was probably sick when RF collasped - as he knew somebody would be getting money out of "his" dept.
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Center Z	You are right, but...	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1346 06/04/09 10:18 AM	there was an easy solution to that problem - make all the owners of the rigs sign a liability waiver releasing the AD from any responsibility. That, and put a sign at the entrance of the LFL stating that the AD wasn't responsible for any injuries from the rigs out there. lawdawg02, feel free to correct me. As far as aesthetics, yeah some of the shit is ugly out there, but it's a unique tradition that LT could have capitalized on, financially and from a publicity standpoint, rather that focusing on getting rid of it. Thank this guy. SPS Fark Board
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Frexzell		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 359 06/04/09 12:16 PM	In my experience, such waivers are rarely upheld in court. "Beefy sluggers are like porn stars, wrestlers, NBA centers and trophy wives: When it goes, it goes. You know right away." --Bill Simmons "I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader
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lawdawg02	i was just about to say the same thing.	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2763 06/04/09 12:26 PM One Call, That's All Best Ambulance Chaser of all time..OF ALL TIME!!	sure, as the owner of the premises you would have a signed waiver in hand. however, such a broad waiver as that (or as would be required in your scenario) would probably not hold up in court. think about it like this - say you have everyone who enters the upper deck at scott field sign a waiver that relieves msu from liability if the upper deck comes crashing down. well, there are certain things that simply can't be reasonably waived, especially structural integrity when dealing with invitees (or licensees as ticket holders). now, with the LFL, i think the school's best bet (in case of injury) is a defense of assumption of the risk, meaning that you should have known better than to scale your way up the plywood skyscraper hauled in by the old drunk guys, that is in no way affixed to the stadium. there is still an issue as to premises liability, though, because it's still on school property, so the school probably should be taking reasonable measures to ensure the stability of the structures, even though the school does not own or maintain them. i don't know if they do that now or not.
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futaba	Let's say a LFL structure..........	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2373 06/04/09 12:31 PM	collaspes and falls on a child, resulting in serious injury or death. With the current setup of LFL, I don't think there is any legal remedy that would save MSU from having to pay. Is there?
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cowbell9	I make non-guest users of my pool sign a waiver.....	#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6152 06/04/09 12:34 PM	my lawyer drew it up and it is pretty clear. HOWEVER, if reasonable effort is not shown in providing a safe environment, I can still be sued and lose. Foe axample: A General Manager of a hotel in Deleware went to jail for failing to fix a safety problem once he was made aware of it. He was told several times (came out in court) That the cement deck at the pool had seperated and someone was going to trip and fall. He did nothing. I kid tripped, fell and drowned. He went to jail for involuntary man and the family was awarded 5 mil.. As long as youy show reasonable effort to correct identified problems, you are safe. In other words, do you damn job. "A loss will be good for us in the long run" Frances Drebin "I've had a handfull of man-crushes with players" Rebelbruiser 1/30/08
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Frexzell		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 360 06/04/09 12:34 PM	Well, there are certainly things you could argue, including assumption of the risk, joint contribution among tortfeasors (i.e., the owners of the structures), etc., but, no, I do not think MSU could escape all liability in such a situation. "Beefy sluggers are like porn stars, wrestlers, NBA centers and trophy wives: When it goes, it goes. You know right away." -- Bill Simmons "I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader
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TheBigDA	Do the people in the lounge rent the space from the university?	#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 319 06/04/09 01:20 PM	If so and if it is classified as that, does the help MSU out any? Edited to add: This would be similar to the principle with the frat houses. The university dosen't own the house it just leases the land. Last Edited By: TheBigDA 06/04/09 01:32 PM. Edited 1 time.
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lawdawg02	you're right - it's all about using "reasonable and ordinary care"...	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2766 06/04/09 01:35 PM One Call, That's All Best Ambulance Chaser of all time..OF ALL TIME!!	if memory serves me correctly. that guy in delaware is a MORON. as far as the kid scenario that someone else mentioned, i don't see how the school could completely escape any liability, unless the safety of the rig was not in doubt and it would not have been reasonable to take steps to ensure that no one could get underneath the rig. if something like that happened, you could probably kiss the LFL goodbye, at least as it is and has been.
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graddawg		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2356 06/04/09 01:50 PM	Who are you billing this time to? I'm not stubborn enough to say, 'This is our offense, this is what we're doing,' even if we don't have the personnel to run it.--Dan Mullen, 1/5/2009 But dont worry your head, we have zero chance of winning the SEC Tourney--Coach34, 03/09/2009
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lawdawg02	the state.	#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2768 06/04/09 02:08 PM One Call, That's All Best Ambulance Chaser of all time..OF ALL TIME!!	your tax dollars well spent...
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graddawg		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2357 06/04/09 02:27 PM	Touche. They're not my tax dollars but they are my parent's and brother's, so point taken. I'm not stubborn enough to say, 'This is our offense, this is what we're doing,' even if we don't have the personnel to run it.--Dan Mullen, 1/5/2009 But dont worry your head, we have zero chance of winning the SEC Tourney--Coach34, 03/09/2009
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lawdawg02	don't worry...	#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2770 06/04/09 02:37 PM One Call, That's All Best Ambulance Chaser of all time..OF ALL TIME!!	it is a state job, after all, so it's not THAT many tax dollars. but i did enjoy the Confederate Memorial Day holiday.
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FlabLoser	I have to agree	#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5899 06/04/09 04:18 PM	cowbell9 wrote: AD employee. Indicated the same thing. DNF is 4th on the list. BBall practice/DWS west side upgrade/ Track upgrade then DNF. Just the way it be. The basketball PF is the highest priority. Football is still football and DWS needs some help. No idea about track. If it really is in complete dire straights, maybe it belongs here. Then baseball. Heck, if Cohen gets some serious success going, maybe a gift or an alumni group would step forward and speed the process here.
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This is still sickening...	06/04/09 07:50 AM	dawgstudent
Rip them down along with the press box...	06/04/09 08:00 AM	RobbieRandolph
I was at a crawfish boil last Friday and talked with an.......	06/04/09 08:02 AM	cowbell9
You are correct on your short list	06/04/09 08:12 AM	Paper Dog
I have to agree	06/04/09 04:18 PM	FlabLoser
Very True	06/05/09 11:54 AM	TDAWG
The silver lining here	06/04/09 08:05 AM	Todd4State
that's a crazy gut you've got on you..............	06/04/09 08:19 AM	futaba
I know	06/04/09 08:26 AM	Todd4State
you're correct........	06/04/09 08:58 AM	futaba
You are right, but...	06/04/09 10:18 AM	Center Z
Re: This is still sickening...	06/04/09 12:16 PM	Frexzell
i was just about to say the same thing.	06/04/09 12:26 PM	lawdawg02
Let's say a LFL structure..........	06/04/09 12:31 PM	futaba
Re: This is still sickening...	06/04/09 12:34 PM	Frexzell
I make non-guest users of my pool sign a waiver.....	06/04/09 12:34 PM	cowbell9
you're right - it's all about using "reasonable and ordinary care"...	06/04/09 01:35 PM	lawdawg02
Re: This is still sickening...	06/04/09 01:50 PM	graddawg
the state.	06/04/09 02:08 PM	lawdawg02
Re: This is still sickening...	06/04/09 02:27 PM	graddawg
don't worry...	06/04/09 02:37 PM	lawdawg02
Do the people in the lounge rent the space from the university?	06/04/09 01:20 PM	TheBigDA
lfl structures	06/05/09 10:10 AM	klipdawg
Sorry Center but those type of	06/04/09 05:01 PM	jbulldog
Don't forget Doc on that Christmas list	06/04/09 05:49 PM	Croomp
You're grossly overestimating Larry Templeton's competence level.	06/05/09 11:37 AM	patdog
Well, I guess	06/05/09 11:49 AM	Todd4State

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