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Interesting Info From Swan's Page About Cohen And The Players |
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Posts: 2605 05/10/09 06:37 PM Eternal Pessimist |
Seeing how the thread is locked, it must be true.
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Croomp |
Ehhh... | #1 | ||||
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Posts: 1239 05/10/09 06:47 PM |
I would hope its not true about Powers. I don't know what is going on inside the teams practices but the players are pretty mute about Cohen in the media
clippings that I have read. I am enjoying Cohen and hope he continues to be our coach and succeed down the line but if this is true it's getting harder and
harder to keep pushing these things aside from the public's view. His shit is going to hit the fan eventually.
Maybe its just a shitty season's worth of built up stress getting to him and this weekend will help it. But by no means should he be calling a player a m/f in practice. And he shouldn't be threatening to cut these guys either until the season has ended. If I heard this from more than one player and a few of the better ones like Connor Powers, Nick Routt, or Grant Hogue then I would consider it proof. If it was coming from someone who everyone knows is more than likely to get cut then I won't consider it.
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Posts: 1143 05/10/09 06:48 PM |
I have a hard time believing that we would trot Paxton Pace out there today if he is struggling with an injured arm...
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Posts: 63 05/10/09 06:59 PM |
I was sort of thinking the same way; that someone is upset over the possibility of being cut and they are making up complete bullshit. Considering that while
he was at Kentucky the fans, players, and the administration seemed to really like him, I find these little nuggets about Cohen hard to believe. Who the hell
knows.
"I use heavy strings, tune low, play hard, and floor it. Floor it! That's technical talk." -Stevie Ray Vaughn |
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79dawg4life |
you can't believe all that you read on message boards... also | #4 | ||||
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Posts: 66 05/10/09 07:03 PM |
I have been very disappointed at our shortstop and second base play this season.... too many errors and routine plays botched. I like the move of Rawdow to
shortstop. It worked this weekend. I would have played him before now.
We need more quality players and hopefully we have recruited them! Long season about over. |
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dawgphd |
Sounds like the players getting cut are starting to get the word and they or | #5 | ||||
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Posts: 337 05/10/09 07:05 PM |
the families are finding it hard to accept their exposed lack of talent. So instead of confronting the situation head on, they and their families are taking
the brave path of anonymous message board bitching and innuendo. Sack up and take it like a man. You were gifted a baseball experience two division higher than
your ability. You're welcome. Now pack up and head to Cleveland. The next step in Operation Depussification is underway.
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SolidDog |
So the UK players were distraught when Cohen left but.... | #6 | ||||
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Posts: 72 05/10/09 07:10 PM |
by the time he got to Starkville his coaching style changed so much that now players hate him.... Interesting.
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JohnDawg |
Not shooting the messenger but I'm calling BS on that. | #7 | ||||
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Posts: 984 05/10/09 07:15 PM |
1st thing, Cohen is a hard ass, but he wouldn't call one of his player a stupid mother 17'er. 2nd, I highly doubt Powers told him he'd kill him if
he talked to him like that again. If Cohen unleashed on him, Powers probably just shit his pants and sat back on the bench.
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shubutadawg |
This is a load of... | #8 | ||||
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Posts: 9 05/10/09 07:26 PM |
I'm calling BS also for two reasons:
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jbulldog |
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Posts: 139 05/10/09 07:39 PM |
Cohen called him that he should be taken to task by his employer...and I said IF cause it sounds like sour grapes. |
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Todd4State |
Consider this | #10 | ||||
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Posts: 4906 05/10/09 07:52 PM |
Cohen has recruited a JUCO guy that is very similar to Powers- Johnathan Ogden is his name. Not to mention Nick Vickerson will be competing for that job as
well.
I don't know if Powers will get cut or not, but he will have competition next year at the very least- and I haven't even mentioned Rawdow yet. As far as all of these rumors, I'm not worried about them at this time. If this is happening five years from now, I might be concerned. What everyone has to understand here is that we are about to have a massive purge. When that happens, people (ie parents) are not going to be happy. For many of these players, this is the highest level of baseball that they are going to achieve, and it's about to get taken away from some of them. These parents are just sticking up for their child like any parents worth their salt would. I would probably do the same if it were my son. That said, in today's society where people seem to have a hard time admitting that they weren't good enough, and then working to get good enough, it's a lot more convinient to blame someone else and portray yourself as a victim. In this case, it's Cohen's potty mouth that's driving them off. Not the fact that they can't throw strikes or hit. And the beauty of it is, how many people do you know that don't cuss, ever? Jesus? Mother Theresa? Orel Hershiser? They're just taking a cue from Uncle Ron- you don't want to play for John Cohen, he will yell at you. And as far as Pace- I don't know what to make of that. "Really bad" is pretty subjective. It's very common for a pitcher to have swelling in his arm after pitching for obvious common sense reasons. That's one reason they use ice. I'm not going to rehash that, though. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen
"This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen |
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I don't know if I 100% believe this or not... | #11 | ||||
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Posts: 158 05/10/09 07:54 PM |
but I'm not gonna call BS strictly cause it came form GP. We all know Cohen has no problem cussing at his players, so him calling someone a stupid
mother<17>er doesn't seem that far-fetched. Now the part about Powers telling him he would kill him prob isn't 100% accurate. I imagine Powers
said something back to him but nothing like that, and when he told the story to his friends he had to make himself look more like a hardass.
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Posts: 81 05/10/09 08:02 PM |
If - He should be taken to task by his employer ? You Sir are as Big of Pussy as Powers ( if true ) This is Division 1 Baseball and sorry if your feelings got
hurt because " Coach cussed me." The employer should show Mr. Powers the Door if he does not like his Free Academic Ride.
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Posts: 1013 05/10/09 08:08 PM |
"Frankly, I've said some things I probably shouldn't have said. . . . I'll be the first to admit I don't lose well. I never have." some random dick. |
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see, that's the problem...those were his players... | #14 | ||||
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Posts: 1979 05/10/09 08:18 PM |
these are Polk's babies. 3 years from now, no one will be whining about Cohen's practices. (And that's not a veiled prediction that he'll be
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VinceVega70 |
Mental toughness | #15 | ||||
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Posts: 251 05/10/09 08:22 PM |
I think the bottom line is mental toughness. Cohen's idea of pressure and motivation is entirely different than the staff that recruited most of these
kids. Honestly, many of these kids would have never been on Cohen's radar and vice versa. He is recruiting kids with his mindset. You can read it in their
quotes on the premium sites. The kids he is signing expect to see a tight ship being run when they arrive. Many of the kids there now are not SEC-caliber,
either in physical talent or in mentality or both. Powers probably needs to be somewhere else. Probably 10 or 12 others need to leave too. They will be happier
afterward. He will be happier. We will win or lose with players that embrace Cohen's vision and philosophy. That includes having a thick skin and
responding to pressure in a productive way. Profanity and name-calling is probably not the best part of Cohen's persona, but responding the way Powers
allegedly did reflects not buying into what is going on. If things happened the way that post said they did, then its probably best for Powers to be somewhere
else. Last, the bottom line will be whether or not Cohen wins. If we see results over the next 2 to 3 years, then all will be fine. If we continue to lose,
cursing at the players may be less tolerated.
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cowbell9 |
That's nothing but chewed grass. thanks for posting!! | #16 | ||||
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Posts: 6037 05/10/09 08:31 PM |
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"A loss will be good for us in the long run"
Frances Drebin "I've had a handfull of man-crushes with players" Rebelbruiser 1/30/08 |
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Posts: 338 05/10/09 08:34 PM |
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MSUCostanza |
Gee, whiz... | #18 | ||||
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Posts: 7845 05/10/09 08:39 PM Post Count + 10000 |
I sure hope none of these great awesome players Polk recruited from his summer camp leave the program and transfer to Belhaven.
Greg Byrne is the Stan Jones of athletic directors.
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Posts: 656 05/10/09 08:53 PM |
VinceVega70 wrote:Fixed that for you. /Classy post |
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Coach34 |
This is just sour grapes... | #20 | ||||
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Posts: 13222 05/10/09 09:01 PM Our KB21 |
Powers has lost his job and sees the writing on the wall...and he was probably called something by Cohen after messing up for the 100th time...but make no
mistake- if the kid told Cohen he was going to kill him if he called him something again, Conners would have had his ass whipped and would no longer be in a
uniform- that just doesnt happen. Especially to someone as intense and commanding as Cohen is....
They have gone from Polk to a complete personality change in Cohen and many cant make the transition. Plain and simple
Stansbury is 17-44 against the top 25, and 51-82 overall against the top 50...I rest my case (numbers compliments of ScoobaDawg)
"The best proven coordinator out there from a big school and the best head coach from a non-BCS program would not give MSU the time of day." - Willie Cunningham...a k a Ol Blew...a k a irsdawg" - October 22nd, 2008 |
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