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Goat Holder	One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......		Lead	[-]
Posts: 3248 07/03/08 10:17 AM Meteorologist	Tags : None and like I said, we're not really in a position to complain, because Croom has really stacked us up in the trenches with quality players, which is most important. But what do you have to do to get some speed around here? That's the big difference in us and say, Auburn and LSU. Their guys are just a little bigger or little faster or both. Shit, we have size too. But how many burners have we missed on? Jamere Holland, PPL, Terry Grant and the guy behind him at Lumberton, etc. And we will probably lose Tracey Lampley to Auburn. Hopefully Oneal Wilder will be a solution to some of this problem. "You believe a 4-seed Fresno State was as talented through and through as Georgia (top SS, top closer, and several other draftees)?" - WillemWallace, 7-10-08, just weeks after Fresno State outscored Georgia 31-18 in the College World Series Finals to win the National Championship.
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Coach34	because...	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9773 07/03/08 10:25 AM Peaches	its easier to get linemen without improper benefits than it is skill players "I don't think LSU finishes at the bottom of the West, by any stretch, but I think think they have the least chance of winning it." - Bulldogbaja on the upcoming SEC West
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Shmuley	Goat, I think TG ...	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 488 07/03/08 10:26 AM	has a lot to prove. He's a blazer, but he's too damn small to run behind an average to slightly above average line. That's what Bama's OL is - slightly above average (even with an All-American). With the loss of Brown, State has at best an average line. Grant would be only somewhat better than an Izell McGill behind this line. Gotta have buses like AD and Ducre to get it done. "He arrives at the football with very bad intentions." Coach Samsel, Olive Branch HS, in describing his Senior Safety, Rod Woodson
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lanceharbor7	There is more speed than you are giving credit for.	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 977 07/03/08 10:36 AM	The DB's are all fast. The LB's are SEC fast. The WR's could use a speed upgrade, but the RB's have been upgraded. Mabye DE. I've made a huge mistake.
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RonnyAtmosphere	Ha...	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2324 07/03/08 11:40 AM	"I was trying to find the holes, but they were playing faster than us," said Smith, who had 35 carries and said he will return as a senior. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/collegesports/2004099244_bowls30.html
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RobbieRandolph	SEC > CUSA	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 68 07/03/08 11:46 AM
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olemissbydamn	Straight from the world famous archives...	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1257 07/03/08 11:46 AM	nm
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Optimus Prime 4	I've always thought DL was the hardest players to get**	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4778 07/03/08 11:50 AM Cobra Kai Sensei	nm
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RebelBruiser		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1896 07/03/08 11:53 AM Not that there's anything wrong with that	Coach34 wrote: its easier to get linemen without improper benefits than it is skill players I disagree. I think true blue chip DTs are probably the most expensive prospects, if you're talking about players being for sale. Speed burners are a dime a dozen in comparison to finding 6'4, 320 pound guys that can move.
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patdog	We know that one DL went for $300,000 about 6 years ago.	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8102 07/03/08 11:57 AM	nm
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Coach34		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9775 07/03/08 12:09 PM Peaches	Bammer offered Dontae Walker 300K "I don't think LSU finishes at the bottom of the West, by any stretch, but I think think they have the least chance of winning it." - Bulldogbaja on the upcoming SEC West
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RebelBruiser	That's what I was referring to...	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1897 07/03/08 12:11 PM Not that there's anything wrong with that	and I've always heard that there are two types of players that are really expensive in college sports: 1) really good DTs 2) a big time big man on the basketball court From what I've seen, we've never been able to land either of those things at our school, unless they couldn't read. So for that, I tend to believe that adage to be the truth. We can cheat all we want, but we still won't be able to afford to cheat to the level of the big boys, which means no true big time DTs or basketball centers.
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Optimus Prime 4	and he turned it down and played for free? Idiot.........	#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4779 07/03/08 12:11 PM Cobra Kai Sensei
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Todd4State	What about	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1663 07/03/08 12:11 PM	Pegues, Anthony Johnson, Wilder, Elliott, Burks, Riley, etc? I don't know their 40 times by heart, but they weren't exactly slow. Then you have guys like AD who may not be all that fast because of his size, but he is one heck of an athlete, and if he ever gets in the open field, he can turn on the burners. I'll tell you what has boggled my mind about Croom's recruiting is the lack of recruiting a WCO type QB for years and sticking with Henig. I think Carroll can run it, and I think Russell can probably run it, but when you run the WCO, QB should be priority #1. I'm not saying that we even necessarily need a bluechip, but just a QB who's smart, accurate, takes care of the ball, and can move around a little bit- like Carroll. That and the lack of quality WR's, which should be tied for #2 with a quality RB. I mean, we have a freakin' walk-on and a transfer from Morehead State as our top five WR's. But, I think we have done reasonably well at recruiting all of the other positions under Croom. I do think that Croom is going to try to solve the QB and WR issues this year, but I have to wonder why he didn't do this before.
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Todd4State	We have better	#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1664 07/03/08 12:13 PM	weed in Starkville- or so we told Dontae.
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Goat Holder	Damn you're an idiot*	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3251 07/03/08 02:04 PM Meteorologist	nm "You believe a 4-seed Fresno State was as talented through and through as Georgia (top SS, top closer, and several other draftees)?" - WillemWallace, 7-10-08, just weeks after Fresno State outscored Georgia 31-18 in the College World Series Finals to win the National Championship.
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Coach34	well, its like my friend told him....	#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9776 07/03/08 02:10 PM Peaches	"did you get this in writing? How do you know WHAT Bama will give you after you sign? Its all talk...you need to go to State" Not sure what we gave him, but it wasnt 300K "I don't think LSU finishes at the bottom of the West, by any stretch, but I think think they have the least chance of winning it." - Bulldogbaja on the upcoming SEC West
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TR	All-you-can-eat at the foodcourt, apparently.*	#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 677 07/03/08 04:23 PM
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hooch1275		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 31 07/03/08 05:00 PM	All-you-can-eat at the foodcourt, apparently.* Winner!
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engineerdog		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 17 07/04/08 08:09 AM	In the same sentence where Smith said we were playing fast, he said he was returning for his senior season. I wouldn't believe everything he says.
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RonnyAtmosphere		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2325 07/04/08 10:15 AM	In the same sentence where Smith said we were playing fast, he said he was returning for his senior season. I wouldn't believe everything he says. 1. Smith gained over 100 yds vs. MSU in that bowl. Why would a guy who gained over 100 yds be lying about the speed of the other team? He could have said "We got beat by a slower team...my 100+ yd. game is proof" & everybody would have believed him. 2. Seldom does a good college player declare for the NFL right after a bowl game. That's bad manners & makes the university & coach look bad (not to mention the player). 3. This board is all about: "It's not that State did some things right; the other team do some things wrong." That's why this thread is here in the 1st place: It's not that State has speed (which they don't according to the person who started this thread); it's just that the faster & better coached teams State beat last season didn't play to their potential on the day they played State. Coach34 is the master of this type bait & switch. When you can come to this board & twist everything into: "It's not that State played good last Saturday; the other team just played bad"...by using this line of bullshit reasoning, you can then dismiss everything State does that is positive. Like I said, Coach 34 is the master of this. Lastly, from what I say last year, only the top teams in the SEC had more speed than MSU (especially on defense). Outside this board, that would explain the 8 win season. But within the confines of this board, it just means a lot of teams (like Auburn, KY, Bama, etc) just screwed up against a slow, badly coached MSU on gameday.
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One problem I have with Croom's recruiting: Lack of speed, and it's mindboggling.......	07/03/08 10:17 AM	Goat Holder
because...	07/03/08 10:25 AM	Coach34
I've always thought DL was the hardest players to get**	07/03/08 11:50 AM	Optimus Pr