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 dawgstudent
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Ben Allen on SS930 is having a great interview... |
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Posts: 12431 06/26/08 08:23 AM The Godfather |
I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and the Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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 FlabLoser |
Been to the King Edward lately? | #21 | ||
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Posts: 4577 06/26/08 12:14 PM |
Construction is underway.
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Optimus Prime 4 |
they should have built that stadium downtown instead of in Pearl** | #22 | ||
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Posts: 4726 06/26/08 12:16 PM Cobra Kai Sensei |
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Stormrider81 |
The truth hurts | #23 | ||
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Posts: 9482 06/26/08 12:20 PM |
Jackson's problem is all the citizens ever want to do is complain. The city council is absolutely worthless. All they do is bicker. I'm glad people
want to revitalize Jackson, but I'm not sold on the city coming back. The braintrust of the city is brain dead.
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Stormrider81 |
Jackson had every opporunity to get the stadium | #24 | ||
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Posts: 9483 06/26/08 12:22 PM |
They let it slip through their fingers, and now Pearl is reaping the rewards.
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eckie1 |
Funny... | #25 | ||
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Posts: 899 06/26/08 12:24 PM |
Mississippi's problem is all the citizens ever want to do is complain.
May be some correlation there... |
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dawgstudent |
Outstanding** | #26 | ||
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Posts: 12438 06/26/08 12:31 PM The Godfather |
I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and the Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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Optimus Prime 4 |
you know what may help Jackson? Gas prices | #27 | ||
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Posts: 4727 06/26/08 12:31 PM Cobra Kai Sensei |
all over the country suburbs are becoming less desirable and markets near city-centers are doing better. This of course assumes there are still businesses in
downtown. I really have no idea.
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TR |
The Jackson metro area is too small (geographically) for that to make much difference. | #28 | ||
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Posts: 651 06/26/08 01:01 PM |
It's what, 10 miles from Ridgeland/Clinton/Brandon to downtown Jackson? I know traffic gets bad at times, but try living in Houston, Atlanta or DFW. I
used to commute from Northside Dr. to Gluckstadt, and it is half my daily drive today. I think you see contraction more in larger (pop & geo) metro areas.
Besides, poor schools will keep most suburbanites from making the move back to Jackson. Maybe if the increase in gas prices overshadows the cost of private
schools, you'd see a move into town. But I don't think it's even close for most commuters.
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dawgstudent |
The problem with Jackson is most development centered towards shopping... | #29 | ||
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Posts: 12440 06/26/08 01:03 PM The Godfather |
and entertainment is taking place in the suburbs. Downtown Jackson needs something to get people to want to come down there.
I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and the Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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patdog |
Even better, they should have razed Smith-Wills and built it there. | #30 | ||
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Posts: 8016 06/26/08 01:10 PM |
That stadium had the perfect location. And yes, TR, location would have made a difference. I realize people in larger cities have longer commutes, but
they're more willing to accept longer commutes too. And BTW, commuting from Northside Dr. to Gluckstadt would be a breeze. You were going opposite of the
direction everybody else goes in. It's no wonder you loved that commute.
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Luther Van Dam |
Lack of Housing | #31 | ||
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Posts: 12 06/26/08 01:11 PM |
The lack of downtown housing could alter many of these retail/entertainment developments (Farish Street, Old Capitol Green, etc.). I'm not talking about
apartments as several have opened recenlty (The Plaza, Electric 308, etc.). These developments need residential units which can be purchased. To my knowledge
the only two sites under construction with condos are the King Edward and City View. It's also my
understanding that the condos in the Duling School job have been replaced by a boutique hotel.
I don't blame the developers because apartments and hotels are likely are more profitable than condos. But for the area to really be revitalized it quickly needs to develop a housing stock. Old Capitol Green and the 2nd phase of the Pinnancle project include condos but these plans could easily change. I looked at some of the apartments downtown before I purchased my house but I just could not pay $1000-$2500 a month to rent a 1-2 bedroom unit downtown when it was only $950 a month for a mortgage payment in NE Jackson. Hopefully, the residential units will increase over the next 3-4 years and I can then buy downtown. |
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8Dog |
exactly... | #32 | ||
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Posts: 4218 06/26/08 01:15 PM Moderator |
you have to start somewhere. Memphis and Little Rock both started with nothing. Fondren was run down and now its starting to boom. Its not called a
revitalization b/c a certain area is already looking promising. Its called a revitalization b/c its dead. hell, people thought they were crazy for putting loft
apts in downtown jackson but everytime they build some, people fill them.
Losing the stadium hurt badly but there is a lot more interest in Jxn than most people know about or ever want to believe. And yes, Jxn's gov't is terrible but as stated before, this thing isn't going to get done with gov't....its all about private business. |
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FlabLoser |
Allen talked about that | #33 | ||
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Posts: 4579 06/26/08 01:18 PM |
Not necessarily renting vs buying, but the need for more living space - starting with the area around Jackson's largest non-government employer, UMC (which
I might add is still a state-supported institution).
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Luther Van Dam |
Article from Last Month | #34 | ||
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Posts: 13 06/26/08 01:26 PM |
Ben Allen had a good article last month in the paper. Most of the projects mentioned are still in the planning or design phase. Hopefully these developments don't get stuck in the mud like Farish Street or Two Lakes. |
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SwampDawg |
But let's be careful what we wish for | #35 | ||
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Posts: 243 06/26/08 01:37 PM |
If we build a new stadium in Jackson, what teams are going to play in it? Or be forced to play in it. When I was going to MSU a few centuries ago the large
majority of our "home" games were played in Jackson. Those of us with no cars and very limited funds got to see about two games a year. I would
hate to see this come up again. If MSU didn't play any games down there, I have no problem with a new stadium other than the cost to provide economic
relief to Jackson.
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Posts: 325 06/26/08 02:53 PM |
It pisses me off every time I read about the new development in Fondren. Instead of putting some cool new restaurants and bars in there, they are adding a
coffee shop 1 block from an existing coffee shop, office space, and a bank. Fondren could be a really cool area, but whoever's in charge of development is
doing a great job of <17>ing it up.
I listened to the head of the Rankin County Chamber of Commerce speak at lunch today, and it was pretty maddening. He said that because of the liquor ban in the county, there are a lot of restaurants that won't build in the county. Additionally, Costco was ready to put a store here until they found out about the ban. Then, he said he supported the ban. He was also asked how the 5% ABW cap on beer was hurting the county, and he said not much, except "for a couple of microbreweries." I really couldn't believe what I was hearing. I'm sure no one in the area would want more restaurants, Costco, or restaurants that brewed their own beer. "I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing." -The Dude
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8Dog |
Huh?... | #37 | ||
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Posts: 4220 06/26/08 03:01 PM Moderator |
Fondren is fantastic. The new Fondren develpment that is still under construction will have a new restaurant, a hotel and other nice housing/retail space. Not
sure what else you would want.
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Posts: 326 06/26/08 03:09 PM |
Compared to other areas in Jackson, it is fantastic. Compared to what it could be, it sucks. There are a few restaurants and Fondren Beverage Emporium, which
is awesome. Other than that, there's not much there. It needs some few bars that aren't just more redneck joints like most of the other bars in
Jackson and more non-chain restaurants.
"I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing." -The Dude |
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dawgstudent |
I agree about the bars and restaurants... | #39 | ||
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Posts: 12447 06/26/08 03:12 PM The Godfather |
but that area has 3 of my favorite places in Jackson
Walkers, Gay Sera Sera (I don't care if it's one of Jackson's gay friendly hang outs - I like the red beans and rice), and Sal and Mookies for overpriced pizza that I don't mind paying for.
I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and the Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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8Dog |
that's up to the... | #40 | ||
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Posts: 4223 06/26/08 03:13 PM Moderator |
prospective business owner. Developers like mike peters simply provide venue. Fondren, however, really has 2 chain/franshises in there. But it also has
Schimmel's, Que Sera, Walker's, Brent's, Roosters, Basi's, Sal and Mookies (thanks DS) and the soon to open restuaurant in Dooling School so I
think its doing quite well in the short time the rebirth has been underway. Not sure what else you can ask for.
I do think jackson and this state as a whole needs more true bars. Not music venues, not restaurants with a bar but true bars. There are very few.
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