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 saddawg
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Posts: 2001 05/10/08 08:27 AM |
time to get drunk. According to Ellis we are officially out of the SEC tourny for the 3rd time in 5 years.
We was robbed!!!! #1 thing you should never read about State baseball 
"You dipshits need lives,or some pussy,losers."-Lipsticlady "Because all they hire are dopeheads and 17 ups from ka, pike, kappa sigma, and sigma chi" -The Tickler- King of All GDI'S My friends all worry about me, They think I'm throwing my life away, It's kind of hard being upwardly mobile, when you're laying in the sun all day. |
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dawgoneyall |
Well, | #1 | ||
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Posts: 1599 05/10/08 09:20 AM |
I certainly didn't see that coming.
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Uncle Leo |
MSU is "eliminated from the SEC Tournament for the third time in five years." | #2 | ||
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Posts: 1977 05/10/08 12:23 PM |
Let that sink in.
Yep... Continuity is what we need. There's someone in my head but it's not me. |
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 FlabLoser |
That left a mark** | #3 | ||
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Posts: 4377 05/10/08 12:41 PM |
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patdog |
The only surprise there | #4 | ||
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Posts: 7460 05/10/08 12:45 PM |
is that we weren't already mathmatically eliminated going into the weekend. Also, missing the SECT 3 times in 5 years doesn't really tell the full
story. We barely snuck in with a 13-16 record in 1 of the 2 years we did make the tournament during that time span. And in the other, our best year in the
last 5, we were 15-13 with a schedule that didn't include the league champs and had 2 fewer road games than home games.
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OrrDawg |
The silver lining is......... | #5 | ||
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Posts: 67 07/23/19 02:10 PM |
that this takes a lot of pressure off our youngsters.
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Posts: 9425 05/10/08 12:54 PM Peaches |
patdog wrote: and that right there gentlemen is why Tommy Raffo wont be hired.
"I don't think LSU finishes at the bottom of the West, by any stretch, but I think think they have the least chance of winning it." - Bulldogbaja on the upcoming SEC West
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Todd4State |
Among other things | #7 | ||
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Posts: 970 05/10/08 01:08 PM |
Coach34 wrote: like inexperience, he's not that great as an assistant, and he can't recruit. Did I also mention that he is slilghtly only a little more emotional that your average pine tree? |
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rebel law |
Yet most our hell bent on replacing him..... | #8 | ||
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Posts: 604 05/10/08 01:50 PM |
with a guy who could possibly miss Hoover for the 4th time in 5 years? Yeah I know it's UK. I still believe that while Cohen would be a decent hire, MSU
baseball could do alot better.
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mstatefanatic |
No Doubt.. | #9 | ||
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Posts: 439 05/10/08 01:53 PM |
but I'm betting we will try to do something everyone is "comfortable" with.
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Posts: 9431 05/10/08 02:09 PM Peaches |
rebel law wrote: He is about to go to Hoover 2 out of the last 4 years. They are about to win game 2 vs Tenn for a 3 game lead with 4 to play. They have a shot to be a 3 or
4 seed as well. He has had the SEC doormat ranked almost all season. They have an SEC title.
"I don't think LSU finishes at the bottom of the West, by any stretch, but I think think they have the least chance of winning it." - Bulldogbaja on the upcoming SEC West
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rebel law |
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Posts: 605 05/10/08 02:14 PM |
If I was a MSU fan I would be pleased with the Cohen hire. I am just saying I think MSU baseball can go after some of the big boys who are more proven and have a better body of work than Cohen. I would target 3 or 4 of the big boys and if they aren't interested, happily offer the job to Cohen. I just don't think he has done enough to be the clear cut choice of a well established top 15 baseball job in America like MSU. Think of a program with a similar history of MSU. Would John Cohen be their top choice? I think he would be on a lot of short lists but not necessarily at the top of them. |
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Coach34 |
I agree with most of that... | #12 | ||
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Posts: 9432 05/10/08 02:26 PM Peaches |
I really love the fact he played here though. That tips the scale for me toward him. He also doesnt play "Polk ball".
I am impressed by his winning at Kentucky. As a former baseball player, there is no way in hell i'd want to go there to play baseball. Getting players there shows you can really recruit. So having our history and facility to help sell with what he possesses, really makes me think he could do great things here.
"I don't think LSU finishes at the bottom of the West, by any stretch, but I think think they have the least chance of winning it." - Bulldogbaja on the upcoming SEC West
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Todd4State |
I'll say this | #13 | ||
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Posts: 973 05/10/08 02:30 PM |
rebel law wrote: I don't know that we could do much better than Cohen in all honesty. He is one of the top young coaches in the country, and while I do think that we
could get someone equally as good, which I would be fine with if it's not Cohen and not someone like Raffo. As far as the big boys, Augie Garrido is
probably the best in the country in my opinion and he is ancient. Same thing could be said about Mike Martin at FSU and Gene Stephenson at Wichita State.
Even if they are younger than Polk, I don't think that they would come because they are pretty well set where they are. I would like George Horton, but I
doubt he would leave Oregon after he has made a commitment to them to build their program. I don't think Pat Murphy would leave Arizona State. Tim Corbin
would be worth talking to.
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QuaoarsKing |
Who cares if he has MSU ties? | #14 | ||
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Posts: 35 05/10/08 02:52 PM |
I want us to hire the absolute best we can (Pat Casey), regardless of whether he has MSU ties.
Cohen would be a decent hire, but we could do much better. If everyone better says no, then sure, talk to Cohen. But his MSU ties shouldn't elevate him any higher than he would be without them. |
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dawgoneyall |
Cohen is | #15 | ||
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Posts: 1600 05/10/08 03:04 PM |
one of the best young proven coaches in America.
Yes, proven. |
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Todd4State |
As far as his ties | #16 | ||
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Posts: 975 05/10/08 03:04 PM |
QuaoarsKing wrote: I think that knowing where our baseball program was and our tradition isn't a bad thing. I do think that being entrenched in Polk's apathetic attitude is. I would love to get Casey, but I would be very pleasantly surprised if he left Oregon State. He has lived in Oregon his whole life, he will be treated like a legend there from now on, and his son plays there right now. |
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Coach34 |
Pat Casey is a pipe dream... | #17 | ||
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Posts: 9433 05/10/08 03:17 PM Peaches |
I really dont want a West Coast guy as our coach either.
"I don't think LSU finishes at the bottom of the West, by any stretch, but I think think they have the least chance of winning it." - Bulldogbaja on the upcoming SEC West
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Todd4State |
Are you afraid | #18 | ||
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Posts: 977 05/10/08 03:40 PM |
Coach34 wrote: that they'll run the WCO? Sorry had to do it. Don't want to turn this into another our offense is shitty thread. |
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patdog |
Speaking of teams that might miss Hoover. | #19 | ||
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Posts: 7461 05/10/08 03:49 PM |
Maybe you ought to be more concerned with your own team than you are with Kentucky's. |
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Posts: 606 05/10/08 05:12 PM |
I'm not concerned with Kentucky. If y'all want to hire John Cohen without so much as calling any of the other more qualified candidates out there, by
all means go right ahead. And my post had absolutely nothing to do with Ole Miss so I don't see the point in responding to that.
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8Dog |
Who is advocating... | #21 | ||
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Posts: 3948 05/10/08 05:20 PM Moderator |
hiring Cohen without talking to anyone else? I think Cohen would be a great hire but his number is not the only one that should be dialed.
And I think when people are spouting stats about Cohen, the first two years shouldn't even be considered. I get tired of hearing, "he's only been to the tourney 1 out of his first 4 years." Its obvious he's a far better coach than what 7 conf. wins represents.
Last Edited By: 8Dog 05/10/08 05:24 PM.
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rebel law |
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Posts: 607 05/10/08 05:39 PM |
You can't have a discussion on here and even suggest that MSU should look in another direction. Hell I was trying to have a normal discussion and somehow
Ole Miss gets brought up? There are parameters now apparently too? The 7 conf. win seasons don't count but the 20 conf win season does count? Does the 13
win season last year count? John Cohen has proven to me that he can dominate a weak non conference schedule on a year in year out basis, that is about it. In 5
SEC seasons he has had 1 season that would be considered "good" by MSU standards and they choked in the postseason. You have to consider what he
inherited but at the same time you have to consider what he has done. You are all ASSUMING that a sub .500 SEC record at UK translates into going to the CWS
every couple of years at MSU. If you want to hire a coach based on assumptions and potential and not results then John Cohen is your guy. He could set the
world on fire at MSU but his results thus far don't make him a "can't miss" candidate in my eyes. Apparently I have a higher opinion of
MSU's baseball program than most of you do.
Last Edited By: rebel law 05/10/08 05:41 PM.
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