why does a horse have to be euthanized if it breaks an ankle? Do horses bones not reheal? I am asking this because I don't know.
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 DAWG61
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Honest question about horse racing... |
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Posts: 56 05/05/08 02:39 PM |
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PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA |
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Posts: 6704 05/05/08 02:44 PM |
It wasn't that she broke an ankle, it was that she broke both and one was so severe that it had pierced the skin.
I think it is damn near impossible to for that to heal. |
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SwampDawg |
There was a horse named Barbarosa(?) | #2 | ||
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Posts: 218 05/05/08 02:48 PM |
That broke just one and went through all kinds of operations and rehab and they still wound up having to put him down. I was talking to a guy today (have no
idea what his credentials are) that said a horse's bones aren't really strong until they are 4 years old. Beats me.
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davatron |
Barbaro is the horse you speak of | #3 | ||
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Posts: 858 05/05/08 02:58 PM |
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This isn't who it would be if it wasn't who it is
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Stansfield |
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Posts: 674 05/05/08 03:05 PM |
They probably could fix the horses bones and spend crap loads of money on it so that it could just go out to pasture and eat oats, but then it would be
worthless to the human who owns it.
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State82 |
It has to be able to support itself..... | #5 | ||
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Posts: 441 05/05/08 03:13 PM |
and with both ankles broken, that would not be possible. With Barbaro, one of his back legs was shattered, and they repaired it surgically, put it in a cast
and he could still stand on the other three. However, the way a horse would have to redistribute his weight on just three legs ultimately results in other
problems and that eventually caused him to be put down. And with 2 legs damaged, no way.
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Bulldog Backer |
The Veterinarian said... | #6 | ||
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Posts: 279 05/05/08 03:38 PM |
DAWG61 wrote: ...that Eight Belles had a compound fracture of one foreleg (severe break with bone protruding), and a fracture of the other foreleg. She could not get
up. She probably weighed close to 1500 pounds or more. Equine surgery is difficult enough, but it would have been impossible for Eight Belles. I just
noticed that State82, also addressed this very well.
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mstatefanatic |
The way I understand it.. | #7 | ||
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Posts: 430 05/05/08 03:38 PM |
because of the way a horse is built, any problem with their legs can cause major circulatory issues that put the horse in an immense amount of pain. Horses are
considerably fragile, considering legs that are about as thin as the average human teenager are supporting a 2000 pound load.
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PineGroveBully |
Thats retarded | #8 | ||
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Posts: 709 05/05/08 03:42 PM |
That was a goldmine that was put down. She finished 2nd in the Kentucky Derby. There's no telling what her colts would have been worth to the owner. Her
bred to a Derby Winner would spit out colts that would be worth more than most of us will ever make in a lifetime.
When Chuck Norris says "More cowbell", he MEANS it.
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Porkchop |
and further, | #9 | ||
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Posts: 347 05/05/08 03:43 PM Louis Winthorpe III |
races horses are more fragile than horses in general. Those light bones that make them fast -- easy to break. The animals really are bred toward a standard
that makes this occurance fairly common (not the double break, but breaks in general.)
Go Dogs! |
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jmbeck |
Kind of hard to have a colt... | #10 | ||
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Posts: 947 05/05/08 03:47 PM |
...when you can't walk.
Just sayin'. Oh, and lineage isn't a sure thing. It's desirable, and it costs more, but it's not a guarantee. Otherwise, all racehorses now would be descendants of Secretariat or Man 'O War. Or Seabiscuit. |
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Porkchop |
Or Native Dancer | #11 | ||
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Posts: 348 05/05/08 03:58 PM Louis Winthorpe III |
Go Dogs! |
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PineGroveBully |
I know its hard to have a colt when you cant walk | #12 | ||
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Posts: 710 05/05/08 04:49 PM |
I was responding to Stansfelds "They probably could fix the horses bones and spend crap loads of money on it so that it could just go out to pasture and
eat oats, but then it would be worthless to the human who owns it. "
Specifically the worthless to the human who owns it part IF it could have been fixed. And nobody said anything about a guarantee but most colts that run in the derby and other races are bred from Derby winners of the past. But so few phillies run let alone place, hence the expensive colts.
When Chuck Norris says "More cowbell", he MEANS it.
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 Eureka Dog |
True. The circulatory issues are the MAJOR problems when | #13 | ||
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Posts: 150 05/05/08 05:38 PM |
horses break lower leg bones. Horses don't heal well from such an injury.
Think about it. Think how much money is spent on Thoroughbreds. Owners just don't put down such a horse on a whim. FWIW, even PETA isn't complaining about the ultimate decision. Believe me, Eight Belles was saved a lot of pain and agony. |
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Eureka Dog |
Her colts (if she'd been bred) wouldn't have been | #14 | ||
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Posts: 151 05/05/08 05:43 PM |
desirable due to the flaw, weakness in her leg bones.
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DAWG61 |
per ESPN... | #15 | ||
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Posts: 58 05/05/08 05:53 PM |
the Vet didn't even ask the owner or the trainer if they could euthanize the horse. They just did it immediately. Can you say lawsuit because they where
not even allowed a chance to get live tissue samples, and yes they can clone horses now. This was on ESPN:60
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TilloDawg |
Yeah...I heard Saturday she was euthanised before | #16 | ||
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Posts: 2242 05/05/08 06:20 PM |
the trainer even knew she had went down.....
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dawgoneyall |
They don't seem to understand | #17 | ||
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Posts: 1584 05/05/08 06:46 PM |
when you tell them to keep off the leg until it heals. They just won't listen.
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jmbeck |
Genuine Risk was mated with Secretariat... | #18 | ||
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Posts: 948 05/05/08 08:32 PM |
The only reason I know this is because Genuine Risk was the Derby winner in the year I was born.
Anyway, the colt was born stillborn. The money it would have fetched, being the only colt ever sired from two Kentucky Derby winners, would have been phenomenal. She was mated with Secretariat again, but she never conceived. Anyway, I get what you were saying now. I didn't read into the message you responded to. |
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jmbeck |
I guarantee the Decision to immediately euthanize was... | #19 | ||
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Posts: 949 05/05/08 10:05 PM |
...completely within his power. You want to lose sponsorships and fans, keep a horse in unnecessary pain simply to gather biological samples. I'm sure as
this is, unfortunately, a situation they deal with from time to time, the owners and trainers surrender emergency medical decisions to the track vet.
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HotMop |
FYI... | #20 | ||
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Posts: 2369 05/05/08 10:06 PM Worthless Banter |
I was an extra in a recent movie about this horse....
Ruffian Relevance...this Filly was also put down at the track. I'm a 17ing superstar I tell you.
I don't have much
of a chemical background but one of the things I enjoy the most is turning beer into urine!
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SteelDawg99 |
but on the cloning thing | #21 | ||
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Posts: 140 05/05/08 11:14 PM |
They went on to say that you can clone a horse, but a cloned horse cannot race in the Derby. Can't even artificially inseminate one... Has to be good ole
one on one horseee loving...
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Stansfield |
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Posts: 675 05/06/08 09:06 AM |
Fight dogs and go to prison, but break a horse's legs resulting in killing it in front of the world and you get to drink a mint julep and get PAID.
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Reb92 |
Thats retarded | #23 | ||
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