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I know I am a little biased but... |
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Posts: 17184 07/04/09 08:20 AM The Godfather |
I support the two most frustrating teams in America: The New Orleans Saints and the Mississippi State Bulldogs.
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 DerHntr |
hate to say it but i have finally gotten to the point where i think... | #1 | ||
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Posts: 3430 07/04/09 08:28 AM Dr. Death
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i can't believe any of them. i know it is "guilty until proven innocent" in most of these matters and that it is nearly impossible to prove your
innocence once you have been accused, but at the same time the seemingly large number of players doing it makes it hard to believe anyone saying they
didn't. it's like the time my older brother went to a WSP concert. regardless of his comments, i still believe he smoked pot while there. he played
soccer for god's sake. he had to be a commie doing drugs. (hijack)
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patdog |
I'm like the X-Files. I want to believe. | #2 | ||
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Posts: 11760 07/04/09 08:36 AM |
And I'm really not sure what Palmeiro would have to gain by lying about it now, 5 years later.
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MSUCostanza |
His story sounds plausible... | #3 | ||
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Posts: 8145 07/04/09 08:41 AM Post Count + 10000 |
but I still have doubts. So many players were doing it and denying it, that you just don't trust any of them anymore. I hope he's telling the
truth, though.
Greg Byrne is the Stan Jones of athletic directors.
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thatsbaseball |
He was arguably the best athlete to ever put on the maroon and white | #4 | ||
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Posts: 3062 07/04/09 09:21 AM |
and what happened to him makes me sick but when that much money is on the line shit happens. I truly hope he can be cleared some day.
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drunkernhelldawg |
I've always believed him | #5 | ||
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Posts: 728 07/04/09 09:23 AM |
It's seems like the players who work the hardest and exhibit the most passion for the game (Bonds and RP, etc.) get the most cheap shot resentment from the
public. I think its because some people just can't stand it for other people to have more talent than they do. But neither Bonds nor Ralpheal rested on his
laurels. Both of them pushed their achievements to the limits of their abilities, when each could have retired and been dubbed "great" several
seasons earlier. Baseball and sports fans should be grateful for their dedication, passion, achievement, etc. But instead the public writes off their greatness
and shovels more popcorn it its millions and millions of fat, loud mouths.
I'm not saying that either player is perfect or even that they've always been honest, or that they're totally untainted. Who knows about all that? I just think that we ought to put their stars in the context of their critics' and accusers' stars and see which shine the brightest. That extra butter'll make you tubby, but it's good . . . |
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hatfieldms |
Canseco said he shot palmeiro up himself | #6 | ||
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Posts: 2449 07/04/09 09:34 AM |
And as big of an ass as Canseco is, one things he hasnt done is lie about any of this. I would love to believe Palmeiro, but honestly I don't believe any
of them any more
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DesotoCountyDawg |
I don't. | #7 | ||
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Posts: 8832 07/04/09 11:14 AM Sixpack's Official Farmer |
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dawgdr |
always have | #8 | ||
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Posts: 12 07/04/09 12:41 PM |
I dont know what he did prior, but there is no way he is so stupid that he would purposefully inject himself with one stanazol which has been around forever
and can be taken orally, so whose to say he wasnt set up. Does anyone know if he has ever taken a lie detector on the subject?
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MemphisMaroonClubDog |
passed his polygraph... I believe him. nothing changed about him | #9 | ||
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Posts: 62 07/04/09 06:28 PM |
like others. That swing was the same as it was in Starkville. Also, the only weight he put on was in the mid-section.
From his wiki page: Palmeiro strongly continues to deny ever using steroids intentionally, telling the Baltimore Sun in June, 2006, "Yes sir, that's what happened. It's not a story; it's the reality of what happened," and "I said what I said before Congress because I meant every word of it." [16] Palmeiro passed a polygraph test in which he was not asked if he ever used steroids, but in which he did state that he unknowingly ingested them via a B12 injection.[17][18] A 2005 New York Times article expressed one writer's belief that Palmeiro's story could perhaps be the truth. I think there is a strong chance that Tejada screwed him over and Tejada was more valuable to the Orioles at the time so they dumped Raffy to keep Tejada safe... May be BS but thats my belief. I find it incredible that Raffy would knowingly inject himself with a strong steroid a month after testifying before Congress and then take a drug test. Hell, I would think he would risk skipping the test before taking one that he knew would come back to haunt him.
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Lumpy Chucklelips |
Wasn't he | #10 | ||
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Posts: 218 07/04/09 08:05 PM |
also tested 3 weeks after testing positive and at that time tested negative? I remember reading that somewhere.
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Porkchop |
I don't see how | #11 | ||
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Posts: 1719 07/04/09 08:40 PM Louis Winthorpe III |
you let someone who isn't a doctor stick a needle in you -- diabetes excluded. I'm not sure if I believe him or not, but there is reasonable doubt in
my mind. But, hell, with steroids all the rage, here's an idea: Don't let someone else put a needle in your arm. Just a thought.
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MemphisMaroonClubDog |
yes, you are correct. He never tested positive other than that ONE test... | #12 | ||
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Posts: 63 07/05/09 09:07 AM |
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Replies
| I know I am a little biased but... | 07/04/09 08:20 AM | dawgstudent |
| hate to say it but i have finally gotten to the point where i think... | 07/04/09 08:28 AM | DerHntr |
| I'm like the X-Files. I want to believe. | 07/04/09 08:36 AM | patdog |
| His story sounds plausible... | 07/04/09 08:41 AM | MSUCostanza |
| He was arguably the best athlete to ever put on the maroon and white | 07/04/09 09:21 AM | thatsbaseball |
| I've always believed him | 07/04/09 09:23 AM | drunkernhelldawg |
| Canseco said he shot palmeiro up himself | 07/04/09 09:34 AM | hatfieldms |
| I don't. | 07/04/09 11:14 AM | DesotoCountyDawg |
| always have | 07/04/09 12:41 PM | dawgdr |
| passed his polygraph... I believe him. nothing changed about him | 07/04/09 06:28 PM | MemphisMaroonClubDog |
| Wasn't he | 07/04/09 08:05 PM | Lumpy Chucklelips |
| yes, you are correct. He never tested positive other than that ONE test... | 07/05/09 09:07 AM | MemphisMaroonClubDog |
| I don't see how | 07/04/09 08:40 PM | Porkchop |
