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Smart football: Defending Paul Johnson's flexbone at GT |
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Posts: 470 07/01/09 09:34 AM |
I find this relevant since they'll most likely be beating our asses next year. Smart football is a great blog and this is a small piece of insight he
brings to GT's flexbone.
Smart Football: Defending GT |
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bullysleftnut |
I still believe... | #1 | ||
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Posts: 102 07/01/09 09:44 AM |
our biggest problem in that game last year wasn't our defense -- it was our offense. We turned the ball over at least 5 times and even when we did make it
down to the red zone we couldn't score TDs.
I think we have a shot at winning this one *if* the offense is better than what we've seen the last 5 years. |
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8Dog |
That is without question the best blog on the interweb... | #2 | ||
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Posts: 6594 07/01/09 09:50 AM Message Board Hero |
great, great stuff.
I wonder if Paul Johnson told Croom he had a good game plan like Fulmer did. |
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Posts: 517 07/01/09 09:50 AM |
bullysleftnut wrote: Not to mention.... We tried to kick a field goal from 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage and it got blocked. |
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8Dog |
Surely you jest.... | #4 | ||
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Posts: 6595 07/01/09 09:51 AM Message Board Hero |
they couldve scored everytime they got the ball if they wanted to. They did all that with their 2nd team QB. While offense is always a problem for us, defense
was the main problem that game.
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South Panola Dawg |
I was there....... | #5 | ||
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Posts: 1126 07/01/09 09:51 AM |
That game was over when we got down inside the 10 down 14 and Crxxms decided to kick a FG instead of going for the TD. The defense just said "F it"
after that and the rout was on.
---------- Cry Havoc, and Let Slip the Dogs of War! ---------- "As I walk through the Valley of Death, I fear no one, for I am the meanest mother17er in the Valley!" - General George S. Patton ---------- "It's like Peaches and JR hooked up 18 years ago and out popped Fishwater." - Afro Dawg, 6/26/08 |
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JimHalpert.nafoom |
I bet the guy that writes that blog | #6 | ||
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Posts: 432 07/01/09 09:54 AM |
would have won more games as OC than McCorvey.
Your favorite sports team scores a game tying point, you find a dollar in the street, you see someone you hate get their ass kicked in public, all of these blissful moments deserve, nay, demand the most communal of public displays of pleasure: The Landshark. |
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bullysleftnut |
Oh we got torched.... | #7 | ||
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Posts: 103 07/01/09 09:57 AM |
8Dog wrote:no doubt the defense sucked. The only thing I can offer as evidence in my favor is this:
Drive Started Drive Ended Consumed
Team Qtr Spot Time Obtained Spot Time How Lost Pl-Yds TOP
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MS 1st M30 09:50 Kickoff M40 08:13 Fumble 4-10 1:37
MS 1st M20 06:06 Kickoff G01 03:49 Missed FG 5-79 2:17
MS 1st M32 01:49 Punt G45 12:21 Downs 9-23 4:28
MS 2nd M14 07:52 Kickoff M14 07:42 Interception 1-0 0:10
MS 2nd M18 05:44 Punt G17 00:19 Interception 15-65 5:25
MS 3rd M32 14:57 Kickoff G33 11:41 Punt 8-35 3:16
MS 3rd M20 11:27 Kickoff M21 09:37 Punt 3-1 1:50
MS 3rd M24 07:02 Kickoff M34 05:09 Punt 4-10 1:53
MS 3rd M20 03:26 Punt G12 14:53 Downs 9-68 3:33
MS 4th G49 10:39 Kickoff G00 08:09 *TOUCHDOWN 7-49 2:30
MS 4th M20 02:39 Missed FG G14 00:05 Fumble 16-66 2:34
11 drives -- 4 turnovers, 3 punts, a missed FG and 2 4th down conversions stuffed. I just think the defense said "screw it"....it was pretty
obvious to me that they gave up when they realized the amount of ineptitude from the O.
But I wouldn't say that our D was the problem -- we were down 21-0 at the half but if the Offense had been worth a damn they still would've been fighting, plus the score would have been a LOT closer. |
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8Dog |
The first 2 times GT got the ball... | #8 | ||
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Posts: 6596 07/01/09 10:01 AM Message Board Hero |
which would presumably be when our defense should still be fighting hard, they ran 15 plays for 119 yards.
The very first drive of the game was an 11 play, 79 yard drive for a touchdown. And if you saw the game (unfortunately, I was there), it was not close. We had no chance to stop them. I don't know how the offense's better play would've helped us "fight" any better. |
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stevo1a |
+1 for 8Dog on this one | #9 | ||
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Posts: 677 07/01/09 10:08 AM |
This was all on our D and coaching staff.
O was predictably ineffective, but not why we got blown the flock out. Edit: Perhaps the thing that stands out the most for me was Saulsbury getting continually pummelled by a first rounder one-on-one. Great strategy. "Uh, uh, we got to, uh, execute, uh, on the, uh, offensive line."
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bullysleftnut |
I saw the game.... | #10 | ||
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Posts: 104 07/01/09 10:10 AM |
8Dog wrote:Ok, first drive -- 11 plays for a TD. They were still playing but gave up a TD. Then we fumble the ball on our end of the field. GT goes 40 yards for a TD. We miss a FG, our defense makes them punt. We turn it over on downs, GT goes 54 yards for a TD. Our offense put our defense in shitty situations via A) not being able to score anything, B) turnovers, and C) not being able to move the ball. I'm not saying GT wouldn't have scored...but don't you think that a 14-14 score at halftime would be a lot better than 21-0? |
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8Dog |
Under your theory... | #11 | ||
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Posts: 6597 07/01/09 10:15 AM Message Board Hero |
it will always be the offense's fault.
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Posts: 105 07/01/09 10:22 AM |
8Dog wrote: No...just when they only manage 1 TD, 4 TOs, 3 punts, 2 4th down busts, and a missed FG in 11 offensive possessions. One way to keep a potent offense from scoring is to keep them off the field with long, drawn out possessions that end in scores. We didn't do that. |
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8Dog |
You obviously just see it differently than I do... | #13 | ||
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Posts: 6598 07/01/09 10:29 AM Message Board Hero |
we weren't stopping them. They went up 28-0 with 11 to play in the 3rd and quit playing.
They could've scored 60 if they wanted to. |
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 patdog |
We gave up 438 rushing yards in that game (8.1 yards per carry). | #14 | ||
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Posts: 11744 07/01/09 10:38 AM |
No matter how bad your offense sucks or how many times it turns the ball over, that's bad defense.
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UpTheMiddlex3Punt |
This is like arguing over whether dog crap or horse crap smells worse | #15 | ||
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Posts: 1867 07/01/09 11:19 AM |
Both defense and offense sucked that game. Royally.
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Posts: 106 07/01/09 11:48 AM |
8Dog wrote:No, I don't think they could've scored 60. Doesn't look like they quit to me: GT 3rd G12 11:41 Punt M00 11:27 *TOUCHDOWN 1-88 0:14 GT 3rd G35 09:37 Punt M12 07:05 *FIELD GOAL 6-53 2:32 GT 3rd G34 05:09 Punt M46 03:26 Punt 5-20 1:43 GT 4th G13 14:53 Downs M00 10:48 *TOUCHDOWN 8-87 4:05 GT 4th G36 08:05 Kickoff M20 02:39 Missed FG 13-44 5:26 GT 4th G14 00:05 Fumble G19 00:00 End of half 1-5 0:05Between 8:05 and 0:05 in the 4th we had the ball and put together an 8 minute drive that ended in a TD. Maybe their Defense had slacked off, I can't debate that. But when we had the ball they weren't ramming it down our throats. In other words, our one good drive kept them off the field for 8 minutes, ended in a TD and kept them from scoring after their last FG attempt (which they missed). I'm not debating whether or not our D was horrible -- yeah they were bad. What I am debating is that if our Offense had been worth a shit we would have had a damn good chance of winning that game in spite of our Defense. And I think that if our offense doesn't suck dog nuts this season we have a good shot at winning vs. Ga Tech, mainly because we shot ourselves in the foot so often last year. We can agree to disagree, that's cool by me. |
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Smooot2 |
I can't wait for the Smart Football: How to stop the West Croom Offense. | #17 | ||
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Posts: 90 07/01/09 12:04 PM |
RobbieRandolph wrote: |
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Todd4State |
Maybe it was some of both | #18 | ||
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Posts: 5530 07/01/09 12:06 PM |
I thought one of the key plays was when Dixon had an enormous hole on the right side of the line and ran about 70 yards and got stopped at the one. We were
then unable to punch it in from there and Carlson had his FG blocked. We score there, and maybe we play a little bit better, probably still lose, but the score
looks a little better.
I to was at the game. I think the defense had a poor gameplan. No doubt about it. They ran through us like a hot knife through butter. After we got down 14 points, I do think the defense said <17> it, going by their body language. I do think part of that was because they knew our offense wasn't going to get 14. I'm not sure that making adjustments was really going to help us out a whole lot. The sequence of events above that I talked about may have made a little bit of a difference if we were able to score a TD. But we did not, we get the kick blocked and lost whatever small amount of momentum we had. And to top it all off- at the end of the third quarter time runs out, and Croom apparently had no clue how much time was on the clock. He goes waddling full speed down the sideline, but the official wouldn't grant it to him because time had expired. That official saved Croom another bit of embarassment and saved us a timeout. It's pitiful when your HC has no clue how much time is on the clock. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen
"This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen |
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MadDawg |
Wrong blog. That's on Football-For-Dummies blog. | #19 | ||
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Posts: 4108 07/01/09 12:09 PM AssMan |
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LTblows |
The GT game last year was the most embarrassing loss I've witnessed. | #20 | ||
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Posts: 28 07/01/09 12:39 PM |
To me it was worse than Maine (b/c we were an even more abysmal team then) and the 3-2 Auburn debacle. Worse than Tulane. Worse than Houston.
We were just unable to stop GT with anything they threw at us. It was definately smart football on GT's part, but the Croom D that game missed so many assignments; so much confusion- we looked like a bunch of junior high kids playing in the special olympics. Completely streamrolled. I dropped $150 for tickets to that game. <17> Walruses.
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