Being the homer that I am, I say yes. The Cleveland LeBrons have a long way to go to challenge the Lakers and L.A. is still a relatively young team unlike
Boston from last season.
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Do the Lakers repeat? |
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Sutterkane woya |
Kobe has proven he doesn't need Shaq | #1 | ||
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Posts: 1234 06/15/09 09:56 AM |
he'll go back to being his old self.
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Hanmudog |
I doubt it. | #2 | ||
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Posts: 3863 06/15/09 10:28 AM |
Something clicked with the Lakers starting in game 5 against Denver. I think Kobe can get used to not having to work so damn hard all the time and let the
others get more involved.
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lawdawg02 |
it will be interesting to see whether odom leaves the lakers. | #3 | ||
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Posts: 2816 06/15/09 10:47 AM One Call, That's All
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assuming the lakers keep ariza, they may not be able to keep odom. sure, he's not an all-star, but he is a very tough matchup every night, and a good
complementary player to have on both ends.
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If Cleveland trades for Shaq and hires Pat Riley... | #4 | ||
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Posts: 13475 06/15/09 10:55 AM Our KB21 |
Cleveland will win the title. Write it down.
"November and December isn't exhibition season," Slive said
Stansbury is 17-44 against the top 25, and 51-82 overall against the top 50...I rest my case (numbers compliments of ScoobaDawg) "The best proven coordinator out there from a big school and the best head coach from a non-BCS program would not give MSU the time of day." - Willie Cunningham...a k a Ol Blew...a k a irsdawg" - October 22nd, 2008 |
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Hanmudog |
Thanks for your kiss of death Coach. | #5 | ||
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Posts: 3864 06/15/09 11:02 AM |
The Lakers will definitely repeat now. Riley's best days are way behind him and he isn't outcoaching Phil Jackson anytime soon.
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Coach34 |
I'll make sure and call you out by name... | #6 | ||
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Posts: 13477 06/15/09 11:22 AM Our KB21 |
next June when it happens
"November and December isn't exhibition season," Slive said
Stansbury is 17-44 against the top 25, and 51-82 overall against the top 50...I rest my case (numbers compliments of ScoobaDawg) "The best proven coordinator out there from a big school and the best head coach from a non-BCS program would not give MSU the time of day." - Willie Cunningham...a k a Ol Blew...a k a irsdawg" - October 22nd, 2008 |
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Hanmudog |
The East sucks. | #7 | ||
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Posts: 3865 06/15/09 11:41 AM |
The only reason Cleveland racked up the record they did was playing in the sorry Eastern conference. I said that back when the Cavs were sweeping Detroit and
Atlanta. There are about 5 teams in the West that Cleveland couldn't get past. If Garnett comes back healthy they won't even get past Boston....with
or without Shaq.
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cps36 |
Are you serious? | #8 | ||
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Posts: 176 06/15/09 12:26 PM The Contrarian
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Kobe DID need shaq. Now he needs Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, Ariza, and Fisher. This team should have been better, but thats right all Kobe can do
is shoot, draw fouls, and make stupid faces. I'll tell you what, switch LeBron with Kobe and imagine what would happen to both teams. ....... Cavs would
be a disaster and Lakers would go dang near undefeated. Also, those Shaq/Kobe teams? They would have sucked without Shaq and Robert Horry who was more
clutch than kobe in those games.
Kobe = Overratted garbage. |
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lawdawg02 |
not so fast, my friend... | #9 | ||
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Posts: 2817 06/15/09 12:30 PM One Call, That's All
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The only reason Cleveland racked up the record they did was playing in the sorry Eastern conference.cleveland was 26-4 against the west this year, and 2 of those losses were against the lakers. their record shows that they fared fairly well against western conference teams, don't you think? |
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Sutterkane woya |
in the grand scheme of things | #10 | ||
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Posts: 1235 06/15/09 12:42 PM |
everybody needs everybody. Shaq needed Wade. Hell even MJ needed Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen. So, I agree with you that he needs other players. In his
mind though, he's proven a point and he'll act that way next year. Also, are we talking about the same Lebron who walked off the court like a bitch
after losing? That's a real man right there. And before you try to speculate, no I don't think Lebron is half the headcase Kobe is, but he's
still got a huge ego.
Finally, anybody that scores 81 points in a single game isn't overrated. Kobe is a top 5 all time SG, the stats are there to prove it, and no, he will never be better than MJ. |
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Sutterkane woya |
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Posts: 1236 06/15/09 12:51 PM |
what?
You mean the same Shaq that's pushing 40 and averages at best 7 points less than his career average over the last 5 years? |
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saltybulldog |
Hold up. | #12 | ||
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Posts: 3811 06/15/09 01:09 PM |
I am not going to get deep into this argument, but saying Kobe is overrated is a bit much. He may be selfish, but he is most certainly in the Top 5 players in
the game today. I certainly dont want to look at him on a list of NBA players given a historical perspective, but once he is done he will be one of the best to
ever play the game.
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lawdawg02 |
mean-mugging with kobe. | #13 | ||
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Posts: 2823 06/15/09 01:29 PM One Call, That's All
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Hanmudog |
Are YOU serious? | #14 | ||
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Posts: 3866 06/15/09 02:04 PM |
"Should have been better"?? You do realize the Lakers won 80% of their games this season and won the NBA title? Take Kobe off the Lakers and they
would be damn lucky to even make the playoffs in the Western Conference. However, no player wins a title by himself. Even Jordan did not win anything until
they got Pippen and Grant. LeBron isn't winning one either until he gets some help.
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Optimus Prime 4 |
He's really not even that selfish any more. He averaged 7+ assists for the finals | #15 | ||
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Posts: 7172 06/15/09 02:18 PM Cobra Kai Sensei |
and has become a much better team player.
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Hanmudog |
First player since Jerry West........ | #16 | ||
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Posts: 3867 06/15/09 02:37 PM |
To average 30+ points and 7+ assists in the Finals. Yeah he is overrated. And what is this "top 5 players in the NBA" stuff? It is pretty much
Kobe and LeBron.........then everyone else. No other NBA player today is even in their stratosphere. As far as all time goes, Jordan of course was the best
but I can't think of another 2 guard that could ever do the things Kobe can do.
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cps36 |
That's my point exactly. No one wins alone. | #17 | ||
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Posts: 177 06/15/09 03:05 PM The Contrarian
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I am pissed that people are trying to say "Kobe won this one" blah blah blah. He had no choice but to win with the talent they had around him.
It's easy to average 30 pts and 7 assists over a 5 game stretch (especially when you are on a team with highly skilled players). Lebron did it for an ENTIRE SEASON. Lebron averaged 38 pts 8 reb 8 assits during the series with the magic. "I can't think of another 2 guard that could ever do the things Kobe can do." Kobe wouldn't have to do a lot of those things if he was a better facilitator. He takes all the shots. He's a glory hog. He doesn't need to play the way he does he simply CHOOSES to for selfish reasons. He's like the guy that jumps for no reason before he catchs the ball in baseball or football. I'd take Chancey Billups over Kobe. I'd take Chris Paul, D-Wade, Lebron, and Dwight Howard over Kobe. I wouldn't clean up vomit with a Kobe Bryant Jersey. If i was his coach he would be a lock down defender with 5 shots per quarter. THATS IT. (He only shoots 50% from the field.) 12 people are ahead of him in the nba in shooting percentage at shooting guard. [Watching Kobe highlight]: WOW LOOK AT THAT SHOT!!!! (that he shouldn't have taken). |
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KurtRambis4 |
please stop posting about basketball** | #18 | ||
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Posts: 3542 06/15/09 03:38 PM |
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uhhct1 |
Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard ... | #19 | ||
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Posts: 149 06/15/09 03:54 PM |
Saying Kobe is overrated. |
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Hanmudog |
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Posts: 3868 06/15/09 04:09 PM |
That dumb shit does not even deserve an argument.
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