He just went to Virginia and sunk MILLIONS of dollars into their athletic department, and is described as "one of its greatest benefactors." The
damage LT and Polk did to this athletic department continues to amaze me. Good article by Veazy on the UVA baseball program.
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20090603/SPORTS030103/906030348/1109/Now-thriving+Virginia+once+dodged+bullet
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Thanks Polk and LT for banishing John Grisham from MSU |
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 graddawg |
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Posts: 2352 06/03/09 07:57 AM |
to take shots at Polk, this one was McMahon's doing. He refused to extended a guaranteed, invited walk-on spot to Grisham's son. He was afraid it
would should favoritism. Lord knows we don't want to show favoritism to one of our richest alums. It still pisses me off thinking about that.
I'm not stubborn enough to say, 'This is our offense, this is what we're doing,' even if we don't have the personnel to run it.--Dan
Mullen, 1/5/2009
But dont worry your head, we have zero chance of winning the SEC Tourney--Coach34, 03/09/2009
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coursesuper |
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Posts: 1199 06/03/09 08:01 AM |
just like it is posted, Mac 17ed that up. That and one more thing like it led to Mac giong to UF.
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Hanmudog |
Any chance that Cohen extends an olive branch? | #3 | ||
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Posts: 3830 06/03/09 08:05 AM |
I believe Cohen played on one of Grisham's favorite teams at MSU judging by the foreward that Grisham wrote for that book about MSU baseball several years
ago. It would be nice if Cohen touched base with him and got him back on campus now that all the previous dickweeds are gone.
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lawdawg02 |
what was the other thing? | #4 | ||
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Posts: 2757 06/03/09 08:12 AM One Call, That's All
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windcrysmary |
Could any other University piss in a stronger wind than that debacle? | #5 | ||
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good God I'm going to be sick...what a 17ing way to start my shift.... I need to shake this off or my numbers will suck today...
please Cohen.. get Grisham back in the fold... do something... whatever it takes |
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UpTheMiddlex3Punt |
That's what you have an athletic director for | #6 | ||
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Posts: 1795 06/03/09 08:45 AM |
At some point, LT should have gone to Mac and said you're going to give this kid a scholarship. Then again, LT would never have even had the thought to do
such a thing. The president at the time was also a 17up too, if I recall correctly.
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Posts: 2353 06/03/09 08:53 AM |
The sad thing is he didn't even want a scholarship; just a guarantee that he had a walk-on spot. He didn't want to walk-on in the fall only to get
cut. Think about that for a minute.
I'm not stubborn enough to say, 'This is our offense, this is what we're doing,' even if we don't have the personnel to run it.--Dan
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MSUCostanza |
It's funny to read this... | #8 | ||
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Posts: 7950 06/03/09 10:56 AM Post Count + 10000 |
after all the ridiculous hubbub on this board over Iupe's kid getting a walk-on spot for basketball. The Iupes, while obviously not as rich as John
Grisham, still have a shit-ton of money to donate.
Greg Byrne is the Stan Jones of athletic directors.
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Todd4State |
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Posts: 5165 06/03/09 11:18 AM |
That's why I was never upset with Stan letting Iupe on the team.
And I'm going to kind of respond to several in this thread- I think there is a very good chance that Byrne and Cohen will extend an olive branch to Grisham. Mainly because it makes sense. Especially with some major stadium renovations that will be forthcoming. And McMahon and Raffo were stupid to not allow Grisham on the team. Heck, he apparently was good enough to play for an ACC school. Let him walk-on and take the field in the 9th when we have a big lead on Valley. Is that so bad? And while that was a McMahon feuax paux, Polk has had his share of similar feux paux's. Mark Gillaspie's son who ended up being a first round pick and then Bryce Brentz who just got invited to Team USA from Middle Tennessee. Legacies have very little to do with talent evaluation as much as they are about goodwill. If they turn out to be great players, that's a huge plus. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen
"This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen |
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jmbeck |
Did we ever offer Patrick Palmeiro a walk-on spot? | #10 | ||
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Posts: 1259 06/03/09 11:46 AM |
He sitting at a community college in Texas right now, right?
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Dog in the Know |
anybody remember a great player for Ole Miss named... | #11 | ||
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Posts: 497 06/03/09 11:48 AM |
Bernie Hutchinson? He was in the batting cage and McMahon told him to get out and let someone who was gonna play get in there. Bernie then left MSU, went to
Ole Miss and killed us every chance he got. Bernies dad is a surgeon from Tupelo and he is now in Corinth. How about that cash flow we missed out on?
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Todd4State |
He is at Grayson County College (JUCO) | #12 | ||
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in Texas. Supposedly, what I heard was that Raffy wanted to wait and see who the new coach was going to be and how all of that was going to shake out. Thus, he
went JUCO.
He struggled a little bit at the plate- hit in the 250's when I last checked a month or so ago. But he showed that he has the potential to hit for power- seven home runs. He was drafted out of HS by the Pittsburgh Pirates in the 22nd round, so I suspect that unless he falls off of the map, we're going to have to offer him some scholarship money to get him. I don't know where he is on Cohen's radar, but with Russ Sneed graduating, we're going to need a third baseman, although I would really like to get Jackson Posey from Sumrall HS. I do think Palmeiro could play the corner OF spots and of course DH, so I think there could be a place for him. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen
"This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen |
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Todd4State |
Yes | #13 | ||
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Posts: 5168 06/03/09 12:11 PM |
And I never understood why McMahon ran him off. Wasn't it so that Josh West could play?
"Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen
"This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen |
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Maroon Eagle |
Old news. Veazey must have gotten background info from the Chronicle of Higher Education sidebar... | #14 | ||
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South Panola Dawg |
Let's not forget a current legacy faux paux........... | #15 | ||
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Posts: 1080 06/03/09 01:51 PM |
Logan Power. I mean, his brother Mark only played for The Legend, we couldn't bother to recruit little brother? Now Logan is the all-time RBI leader at
Mississippi. Damn, I hate the way we've let Mississippi steal baseball away from us. Enjoy it while it lasts, Mississippi fans.
---------- Cry Havoc, and Let Slip the Dogs of War! ---------- "As I walk through the Valley of Death, I fear no one, for I am the meanest mother17er in the Valley!" - General George S. Patton ---------- "It's like Peaches and JR hooked up 18 years ago and out popped Fishwater." - Afro Dawg, 6/26/08 |
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The difference is in the size of the roster | #16 | ||
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I had no problem letting Iupe sit on the bench and play meaningless minutes. It would have been really easy for McMahon to let Grisham's son ride the pine
in order to kiss ass to one of the wealthy alumni. Hell it's a common practice to give those spots on the end of the bench to the kids of former players
and such.
It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. - Douglas Adams When someone asks you, 'A penny for your thoughts,' and you put your two cents in, what happens to the other penny? - George Carlin LSU is an 800 LB werewolf with a chainsaw for a penis. - MSUCE99 |
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and what about every starkville kid that ever wanted to play | #17 | ||
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was allowed to suit up. How long is that list?
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MSUCostanza |
Oh, I agree... | #18 | ||
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Don't misunderstand. I agree with Iupe being allowed to sit, and I think it was ridiculous that McMahon wouldn't let Grisham sit. What does it
hurt? It's just a walkon spot.
Greg Byrne is the Stan Jones of athletic directors.
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Todd4State |
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Logan Power's sister was not only a Diamond Girl, but she was also MSU's HC queen.
And I think Jake Morgan's brother was a drum major at MSU. (Or at least he's related) "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen
"This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen |
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is that the roster limits are going to keep us from doing that. In baseball we're going to have eight spots for walk-ons, and it would be crazy if there
were eight legacies in any particular year.
But here's the bad thing about the baseball players- most of the guys we have mentioned were/are good productive players. Many of the Mississippians were Dandy Dozen and were very good in high school. It's not like these were guys that no one knew about that just happened to be relatives of former MSU baseball players. That makes it much worse to me. It would be like Notre Dame not recruiting Nick Montana. It's stupid. These players should be fish in the barrell when it comes to recruiting. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen
"This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen |
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