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05/29/09 12:42 PM

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I looked at some name teams and their schedules for the last 2 years...

1. Dook- played @Michigan, @Purdue, @Xavier (who HD called a mid-major and below us), @Temple, and @Ill- AND @Davidson
2. Boston College- @ St Louis, @Umass
3. North Carolina- @Nevada, @ Penn, @Rutgers
4. Notre Dame- @Loyola-Marymount, neutral court- Baylor, GaTech, and Kansas St
5. Villanova- @Penn, @LaSalle, @Temple, LSU- neutral court
6. Mich State- @IPFW (I dont even know who this is), @Bradley

So BC will play a home and home with St Louis but not us?
Penn can get NC and Villanova on their home floor, but we can't?
Loyola-Marymount can get Notre Dame across the country but we can't?
Dook will go to mid-majors like Davidson and Xavier but not us? (aGAIN, HD said Xavier was a mid-major and not as relevant as us)

We can get teams to play in Starkville, the effort just has to be there. This "nobody will play us" bullshit is just that...all you need to know about upgrading the schedule comes from 2008- when we upgraded with Clemson- loss, S. Illinois- loss, Miami- loss, Miami-OH- loss...Stansbury wants the candies to pad the wins, plain and simple

Stansbury is 17-44 against the top 25, and 51-82 overall against the top 50...I rest my case (numbers compliments of ScoobaDawg)

"The best proven coordinator out there from a big school and the best head coach from a non-BCS program would not give MSU the time of day." - Willie Cunningham...a k a Ol Blew...a k a irsdawg" - October 22nd, 2008

Last Edited By: Coach34 05/29/09 12:47 PM. Edited 1 time.

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LCDawg

After 5 minutes of reading......

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05/29/09 04:14 PM

I was able to find out that you are a complete douchebag. You have been shown that you are wrong yet you keep saying the same shit. You're the idiot that I saw on 'Let's make a Deal' that actually chose the curtain with the car behind it first and then opted for curtain 1 with the goat pulling the shitflinging monkey in a wagon aren't you?!

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Maroon Eagle

No. You're trying to make MSU equal Auburn, and that's a bad comparison...

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05/29/09 04:53 PM

Manager of Deathtöngue

From Wikipedia:

SEC Champions (since 1992)

Year	Regular Season Champion	Tournament Champion

1992	Arkansas	Kentucky
1993	Vanderbilt	Kentucky
1994	Arkansas	Kentucky
1995	Kentucky	Kentucky
1996	Kentucky	Mississippi State
1997	South Carolina	Kentucky
1998	Kentucky	Kentucky
1999	Auburn	Kentucky
2000	Florida, Kentucky, LSU, Tennessee	Arkansas
2001	Florida, Kentucky	Kentucky
2002	Alabama	Mississippi State
2003	Kentucky	Kentucky
2004	Mississippi State	Kentucky
2005	Kentucky	Florida
2006	LSU	Florida
2007	Florida	Florida
2008	Tennessee	Georgia
2009	LSU	Mississippi State

Division winners (since 1992)

Year	Eastern Champion	Western Champion
1992	Kentucky	Arkansas
1993	Vanderbilt	Arkansas
1994	Florida/Kentucky	Arkansas
1995	Kentucky	Arkansas/Mississippi State
1996	Kentucky	Mississippi State
1997	South Carolina	Mississippi
1998	Kentucky	Mississippi
1999	Tennessee	Auburn
2000	Florida/Kentucky/Tennessee	LSU
2001	Florida/Kentucky	Mississippi
2002	Florida/Kentucky/Georgia	Alabama
2003	Kentucky	Mississippi State
2004	Kentucky	Mississippi State
2005	Kentucky	Alabama/LSU
2006	Tennessee	LSU
2007	Florida	Mississippi State/Mississippi
2008	Tennessee	Mississippi State
2009	Tennessee/South Carolina	LSU

Auburn has won only one SEC divisional title and regular season championship since expansion and largely perceived as a patsy (relatively speaking of course). Of course teams such as Pittsburgh are willing to schedule them. MSU on the other hand has six divisional titles, one regular season championship, and three tournament titles-- meaning MSU is no patsy.¹

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¹And it's work like this that earned Coach34 a shot at the DDDY Crown. I almost want Ole Miss Grad to be unbanned so he can provide us with more examples of his Derek Dunn-esque prose.

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BlindDawg

ATTN: Scooba or someone who feels like doing a little research

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05/29/09 04:57 PM

Winning the West in basketball???? An 8 or 9 seed in the Tourney

Could someone please find out how often the winner of the West has gotten an 8 or 9 seed. I know it happened this year and two or three years ago when LSU got an 8 (09) and we got a 9 (07 or 08). I could be wrong, but I think the West winner generally gets a higher seed. Could someone please show if this is a case of Coach's usual tactic of finding the worst case scenario and extrapolating it out to be the truth for every instance or if this is more common than I realize?

Regardless of what winning the West gets you in regards to the postseason, back to Hamnu's point, what kind of fan continuously shits on his school's accomplishments like you do?

Props to DerHntr for the fark.

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Optimus Prime 4

hell, the winner of the West has missed the tourney before**

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05/29/09 05:01 PM

Cobra Kai Sensei

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BlindDawg

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05/29/09 05:05 PM

Don't tell Coach that. His new line will become "winning the West doesn't even get you in the tournament."

Props to DerHntr for the fark.

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Coach34

here you go Blind....

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05/29/09 05:33 PM

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2009- LSU- 8 seed
2008- State- 8 seed
2007- State/Mississippi- both missed Tourney

Thats what winning the West gets you

Stansbury is 17-44 against the top 25, and 51-82 overall against the top 50...I rest my case (numbers compliments of ScoobaDawg)

"The best proven coordinator out there from a big school and the best head coach from a non-BCS program would not give MSU the time of day." - Willie Cunningham...a k a Ol Blew...a k a irsdawg" - October 22nd, 2008

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Afro Dawg

Who knew they've only awarded division titles for three years.

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05/29/09 05:40 PM

Huxtablologist

Surely we've never been a 2 and a 3 seed after winning the west. Never happened.

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Dawg in a pile

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05/29/09 05:49 PM

Coach34 wrote:
2009- LSU- 8 seed
2008- State- 8 seed
2007- State/Mississippi- both missed Tourney

Thats what winning the West gets you

2006 - LSU - 4 seed
2005 - Bama - 5 seed
2004 - State - 2 seed

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Dawgbreeze

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05/29/09 05:50 PM

Same song, different verse. Coach will never give us any credit until we get past the sweet 16 and then if we lose, he'll simply say we are poorly coached and should have won the National Title. It will never change. I guess when Coach K and Roy Williams apply for the MSU job, he'll be happy but I hate to tell him, it ain't gonna happen.

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ScoobaDawg

Here ya go

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05/29/09 06:02 PM

Division winners (since 1992)		Sec Record	NCAA Seed

Year	Western Championn (** Denotes Overall Championship)
1992	Arkansas **	13-3	3
1993	Arkansas	10-6	4
1994	Arkansas **	14-2	1
1995	Arkansas	12-4	2
1995	Mississippi State	12-4	5
1996	Mississippi State	10-6	5
1997	Mississippi	11-5	8
1998	Mississippi	12-4	4
1999	Auburn **	14-2	1
2000	LSU **	12-4	4
2001	Mississippi	11-5	3
2002	Alabama **	12-4	2
2003	Mississippi State	9-7	5
2004	Mississippi State **	14-2	2
2005	Alabama	12-4	5
2005	LSU	12-4	6
2006	LSU **	14-2	4
2007	Mississippi	8-8	None
2007	Mississippi State	8-8	None
2008	Mississippi State	12-4	8
2009	LSU **	13-3	8

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Afro Dawg

Clearly, winning the west always means an 8 or 9 seed.

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05/29/09 06:05 PM

Huxtablologist

I hate myself a little more every time I wade into one of this idiot's arguments.

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Maroon Eagle

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05/29/09 06:10 PM

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NCAA Tournament Seedings for Western Champions (since 1992)¹

Year	Seeding	Western Champion
1992	3	Arkansas
1993	4	Arkansas
1994	1	Arkansas
1995	2 & 5 respectively	Arkansas/Mississippi State
1996	5	Mississippi State
1997	8	Mississippi
1998	4	Mississippi
1999	1	Auburn
2000	4	LSU
2001	3	Mississippi
2002	2	Alabama
2003	5	Mississippi State
2004	2	Mississippi State
2005	5 & 6 respectively	Alabama/LSU
2006	4	LSU
2007	Both Not Invited²	Mississippi State/Mississippi
2008	8	Mississippi State
2009	8	LSU

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¹Edited to note that this is Germans. Scooba does excellent work as always.

²Arkansas received an at-large bid as a 12-seed

Last Edited By: Maroon Eagle 05/29/09 06:15 PM. Edited 1 time.

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ScoobaDawg

8 =5 in Coachmath

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05/29/09 06:13 PM

Taking the 10 west teams that made the NCAA, and ONLY won the west (since that is being debated)
we sum together the 10 teams for 50 , which of course is an average of 5.

*edit* Changing from 11 teams summed for 55
Removing the Alabama (05) from the tabulation, in order to leave LSU (6..higher seed)
in order to only have one team represented per year.
Still comes up the same.
*edit the edit* Aghh..silence is golden.

Last Edited By: ScoobaDawg 05/29/09 06:34 PM. Edited 2 times.

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bulliegolfer

Who really gives a rats about his endless rambling on Stansbury and....

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05/29/09 06:23 PM

scheduling. C34 must have no life what so ever.

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IBleedMaroonDawg

It's should be apparent to everyone that Coach is

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05/29/09 07:20 PM

working hard for the golden turd trophy.

We have the best government that money can buy.
Mark Twain

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DawgatAuburn

Coach does plenty of turdworthy things, but this isn't one of them.

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05/29/09 07:53 PM

We need to upgrade the schedule. There is no real downside to doing so. And I don't know why y'all are on him about winning the West not meaning much for seeding. The last seven West champs (five years) have been seeded 5, 6, 4, none, none, 8, and 8. There were a lot of top four seeds the previous 10-15 years, but the trend the last five years is definitely on the way down. That's why the schedule upgrade is needed. Winning the West, while fun and something I love doing, does not bring with it much respect nationally or in the microchips that spit out RPIs.

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mstateglfr

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05/29/09 08:31 PM

DawgatAuburn wrote:
Coach does plenty of turdworthy things, but this isn't one of them. We need to upgrade the schedule. There is no real downside to doing so.

I agree. I agree totally...on the fact that we need to upgrade the schedule. But this is most certainly a turdworthy thing he has done since he chose to use some of the absolute shittiest examples to back up his ad naus view.
His greater message is lost because he is a total douche and uses horrible reasoning to back up his message. He is the Ann Coulter of SixPack. On the rare time when he has a good point, its ignored because of how he states it or how he backs it up, or just because how its come from him.

Ann frigginCoulter i tell ya.

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Coach34

great quote here...

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05/29/09 08:37 PM

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"There were a lot of top four seeds the previous 10-15 years, but the trend the last five years is definitely on the way down."

I posted the last 3 years, which nobody can argue are the most relevant, because they represent the current trend. The last 3 West champions have been left out, 8 seed, 8 seed...there is nothing great about that

Stansbury is 17-44 against the top 25, and 51-82 overall against the top 50...I rest my case (numbers compliments of ScoobaDawg)

"The best proven coordinator out there from a big school and the best head coach from a non-BCS program would not give MSU the time of day." - Willie Cunningham...a k a Ol Blew...a k a irsdawg" - October 22nd, 2008

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Bulldog Backer

BINGO!!!!

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05/30/09 03:51 AM

LCDawg wrote:
I was able to find out that you are a complete douchebag. You have been shown that you are wrong yet you keep saying the same shit. You're the idiot that I saw on 'Let's make a Deal' that actually chose the curtain with the car behind it first and then opted for curtain 1 with the goat pulling the shitflinging monkey in a wagon aren't you?!

Coach34 is a "Natural Borne Douchebag." In fact, he is the enema nozzel on the damn thing!

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After just 20 minutes of research...	05/29/09 12:42 PM	Coach34
What was that?	05/29/09 12:45 PM	Hanmudog
Out of that group, there is not one game...	05/29/09 12:46 PM	8Dog
Let me also add that three teams...	05/29/09 12:57 PM	8Dog
Kinda shoots his point straight down doesn't it?	05/29/09 01:01 PM	MadDawg
Since you brought it up...	05/29/09 01:03 PM	MSUCostanza
After 5 seconds of reading..	05/29/09 12:52 PM	MSUCostanza
....................	05/29/09 12:54 PM	Optimus Prime 4
again..	05/29/09 12:56 PM	ScoobaDawg
My answers to your comments and questions are in blue...	05/29/09 01:14 PM	Maroon Eagle
That will leave a mark.	05/29/09 01:16 PM	MSUCostanza
Mark? How so?	05/29/09 01:24 PM	Coach34
hey coach34...	05/29/09 01:32 PM	hooch1275
Re: After just 20 minutes of research...	05/29/09 03:16 PM	mstateglfr
lets look at some of the OOC	05/29/09 01:25 PM	TBonewannabe
You should research longer	05/29/09 01:32 PM	Seshomoru
Why stop?	05/29/09 02:03 PM	Coach34
because you should be full by now	05/29/09 02:24 PM	Seshomoru
Who wouldn't want to play Auburn, Coach?	05/29/09 03:26 PM	Hanmudog
you are the main one that doesnt understand...	05/29/09 04:07 PM	Coach34
No. You're trying to make MSU equal Auburn, and that's a bad comparison...	05/29/09 04:53 PM	Maroon Eagle
ATTN: Scooba or someone who feels like doing a little research	05/29/09 04:57 PM	BlindDawg
hell, the winner of the West has missed the tourney before**	05/29/09 05:01 PM	Optimus Prime 4
Re: After just 20 minutes of research...	05/29/09 05:05 PM	BlindDawg
here you go Blind....	05/29/09 05:33 PM	Coach34
Who knew they've only awarded division titles for three years.	05/29/09 05:40 PM	Afro Dawg
Re: After just 20 minutes of research...	05/29/09 05:49 PM	Dawg in a pile
Here ya go	05/29/09 06:02 PM	ScoobaDawg
Clearly, winning the west always means an 8 or 9 seed.	05/29/09 06:05 PM	Afro Dawg
8 =5 in Coachmath	05/29/09 06:13 PM	ScoobaDawg
Your Answers	05/29/09 06:10 PM	Maroon Eagle
We played Missouri	05/29/09 03:58 PM	Todd4State
After 5 minutes of reading......	05/29/09 04:14 PM	LCDawg
BINGO!!!!	05/30/09 03:51 AM	Bulldog Backer
Re: After just 20 minutes of research...	05/29/09 05:50 PM	Dawgbreeze
Who really gives a rats about his endless rambling on Stansbury and....	05/29/09 06:23 PM	bulliegolfer
It's should be apparent to everyone that Coach is	05/29/09 07:20 PM	IBleedMaroonDawg
Coach does plenty of turdworthy things, but this isn't one of them.	05/29/09 07:53 PM	DawgatAuburn
Re: After just 20 minutes of research...	05/29/09 08:31 PM	mstateglfr
great quote here...	05/29/09 08:37 PM	Coach34

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