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Todd4State	What are these rumors about		Lead	[-]
Posts: 4764 05/02/09 01:30 PM	Tags : None only 10 guys coming back from the baseball team this year? That would put us way under the roster limit- with four spots open, which I guess would be filled with walk-ons. I know Cohen has said that we are going to sign 18, unless he has changed his mind this week, plus the three walk-ons that I'm aware of. If the rumor is true, we're about to see a purge that would make Paul Manieri proud. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen "This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen
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ShineOnYouCrazyBulldog	Any idea	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 151 05/02/09 01:33 PM	who those 10 are?
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graddawg		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2245 05/02/09 01:50 PM	First I've heard of it. Where is said rumor making the rounds? I'm not stubborn enough to say, 'This is our offense, this is what we're doing,' even if we don't have the personnel to run it.--Dan Mullen, 1/5/2009 But dont worry your head, we have zero chance of winning the SEC Tourney--Coach34, 03/09/2009
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Henry Kissinger		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1544 05/02/09 02:01 PM	very croomian
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muddawgs33	Nah.. our baseball team is already croomian...	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1858 05/02/09 02:30 PM	very croomian At least Cohen will upgrade the players unlike Croom...
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Todd4State	The street	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4766 05/02/09 02:48 PM	graddawg wrote: First I've heard of it. Where is said rumor making the rounds? It's really not far from the truth, but I would rather keep the four crappy guys as So. and Jrs so they will get out of the program sooner than bring in four walk-ons, who likely won't be much better and will have to stay in the program longer, or be cut possibly hurting our APR. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen "This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen
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Todd4State	That's what I thought to	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4767 05/02/09 02:50 PM	Henry Kissinger wrote: very croomian but like muddawg said, Cohen will upgrade the players plus, he knows what he is doing. I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen "This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen
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Henry Kissinger		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1545 05/02/09 03:00 PM	yeah, it seemed like cohen's biggest emphasis in hiring assistant coaches was recruiting ability. i expect a substantial upgrade within the next two years.
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99jc	10 players coming back.....Hell thats 7 more than I'd be returning.	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 873 05/02/09 03:08 PM	theyallsuxku
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karlchilders	How about Polkemon in this case.	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 760 05/02/09 03:30 PM	Seemed to me we mostly just needed pitchers.... but that's what I understand , and am hearing. We got what "Ya'll" wanted ( me included)...so I guess we let him go, and stay out of the way...I suspect this is what Polk was in fear of!
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Todd4State	Exactly right	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4769 05/02/09 03:43 PM	And I think an even worse fear for Polk would be for someone like Cohen to come in and recruit good players and win with them, making him look like the charleton that he is. Cohen is going to completely blow up his NCAA social experiment. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen "This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen
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JimHalpert.nafoom	So who do you think the rumored 10 will be?*	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 365 05/02/09 03:56 PM	nm Your favorite sports team scores a game tying point, you find a dollar in the street, you see someone you hate get their ass kicked in public, all of these blissful moments deserve, nay, demand the most communal of public displays of pleasure: The Landshark.
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Todd4State	First of all	#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4772 05/02/09 04:08 PM	IF this rumor is true, I doubt even Cohen knows exactly who the lucky 10 will be, because it's going to depend on the draft and who wants to stay. I'm sure some will show themselves the door. But since you are asking, my 10 (assuming Conner Powers goes in the draft): Routt Sneed Butler Collins Adkins Duffy Ryan Powers Devin Jones Brownlee Whitney To explain myself ahead of time, I'm buying the rumor that Moore and Freeman are going to transfer to DSU. If they don't, put them on the list and mark off Whitney and Brownlee. I think Devin Jones has a lot of upside, second most to Routt as far as the Fr. are concerned. Jones is going to have a chance to develop. And I'll also say this- it makes a lot more sense to me to keep 14 guys than it does to bring in seven walk-ons. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen "This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen
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karlchilders	I hope so!	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 761 05/02/09 04:17 PM	.
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disturbeddawg		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 66 05/02/09 04:38 PM	What's happening with Busby? What kind of injury does he have? I can't see Conner getting drafted high enough this year, but he may feel he's ready to move on. I think D Jones could be a good one as well. He's got good movement on his fastball when I've seen him, but off speed pitches need a little work. Would hate to see Moore leave.
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Indndawg	2nd hand but	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8217 05/02/09 04:42 PM	A contractor of mine know JC and does alotta work for him. He (contractor) told me that JC's level of frustration and pissed-offness is off the scale. Basically JC told him he WILL rebuild this team in HIS image. I asked does he speak of his predecssor much and he said no its just better to not go there.
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ababyatemydingo	inside scoop on one of our pitching commits	#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 44 05/02/09 05:11 PM	just a little inside note on one of our pitching recruits. Looks like Blake Hennington is possibly pulling out of his commitment. I'm good friends with his family, and apparently the MCC coach is looking out for his own hide, and trying to convince Blake to come back to MCC for another year, instead of going State next year. He's telling him to pitch another year in JUCO, and then let everyone recruit him all over again. I'm not sure how that works. Maybe some of you can enlighten me. I thought that once you signed, even if he went back to MCC next year, he'd still be committed to come to State after next year, unless Cohen wanted to let him out of his commitment. Blake's a left handed pitcher, who throws heat for strikes. He hasn't pitched for MCC in a few weeks. He broke some little bone in his throwing hand in a freak accident, and has just started throwing again. This all started after he came up to Starkville for his official visit. It sounded really juvenile to me when his uncle told me, but...whatever. Apparently, coach Cohen promised him that he would get to stay in a university owned apartment on his visit, but they ended up putting him up in the dorm, when he actually got to Starkville. So he got his panties in a wad over that. So...the MCC coach is playing the angle of, "hey, they've already lied to you. How do you know they won't lie to you again? You might as well just play here another year, and let the recruiting process start all over next year." This doesn't bode too well for us getting future MCC players. Looks like the coach doesn't care for either State or Cohen, or both. I do know that his uncle is a HUGE Ole Miss fan, and would love to see Bianco sign him next year.
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hatfieldms		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2398 05/02/09 06:41 PM	disturbeddawg wrote: What's happening with Busby? What kind of injury does he have? I can't see Conner getting drafted high enough this year, but he may feel he's ready to move on. I think D Jones could be a good one as well. He's got good movement on his fastball when I've seen him, but off speed pitches need a little work. Would hate to see Moore leave. He has a torn labrum(sp?) and had surgery about a month ago. Doctor said he would need up to 9 months to rehab
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Todd4State	Considering	#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4774 05/02/09 09:17 PM	the success that Mississippi JUCO recruits have had at State, Ole Miss, and USM, I don't think that is that bad of a thing. If Hennington comes to MSU, I think he will be a middle relief guy. And as far as the apartment thing- #1 Does the University own off campus apartments, and if we put a recruit up in one, doesn't that kind of set us up for some potential violations? #2 Doesn't Univeristy owned apartments = Dorms? #3 If he got pissed off about staying one night or weekend in a dorm, do we want him on our team? If he's the next Tim Lincecum, my answer is yes. I doubt that's the case though. Now as far as the commitment thing- baseball has two signing periods- one in the fall and one in the spring. Hennington verbally committed after the fall period, therefore just like football, he was a "verbal" commitment and had not signed anything, and was still fair game for any other school. I'm guessing what really happened was he broke his throwing hand, and to cover our hide, we pulled his scholarship and told him to pitch another year in JUCO to make sure he was OK. At the same time, we probably saw some HS seniors that we wanted, and have decided to offer them instead, with the thought that we could maybe get Hennington later. If his recruitment went that bad, why did he commit to us in the first place? "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen "This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen
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graddawg		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2246 05/02/09 10:39 PM	Todd4State wrote: the success that Mississippi JUCO recruits have had at State, Ole Miss, and USM, I don't think that is that bad of a thing. If Hennington comes to MSU, I think he will be a middle relief guy. And as far as the apartment thing- #1 Does the University own off campus apartments, and if we put a recruit up in one, doesn't that kind of set us up for some potential violations? #2 Doesn't Univeristy owned apartments = Dorms? #3 If he got pissed off about staying one night or weekend in a dorm, do we want him on our team? If he's the next Tim Lincecum, my answer is yes. I doubt that's the case though. Now as far as the commitment thing- baseball has two signing periods- one in the fall and one in the spring. Hennington verbally committed after the fall period, therefore just like football, he was a "verbal" commitment and had not signed anything, and was still fair game for any other school. I'm guessing what really happened was he broke his throwing hand, and to cover our hide, we pulled his scholarship and told him to pitch another year in JUCO to make sure he was OK. At the same time, we probably saw some HS seniors that we wanted, and have decided to offer them instead, with the thought that we could maybe get Hennington later. If his recruitment went that bad, why did he commit to us in the first place? Not if it's an official visit. What's the difference between this and a hotel? And I don't know if said apartments even exist. I'm not stubborn enough to say, 'This is our offense, this is what we're doing,' even if we don't have the personnel to run it.--Dan Mullen, 1/5/2009 But dont worry your head, we have zero chance of winning the SEC Tourney--Coach34, 03/09/2009
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Todd4State	That's what makes it suspicious to me	#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4775 05/02/09 11:16 PM	To me, a hotel is a very public place. Whereas a "University owned apartment" sounds to me like somewhere that you could have boosters and people like that conveniently meeting recruits and things like that. You can control the traffic and hide things a little better, in my opinion. I'm kind of thinking back to the days when Ole Miss had the now infamous "hunting camp" that they got busted for. It just sounds suspicious, but who knows? Maybe every school has them. "Because just being good kids who make good grades isn't good enough anymore."- John Cohen "This league doesn't care how hard you try. This league cares about having real players who can perform certain skills. If you try to throw a fastball in and you miss the middle of the plate, the league doesn't care that you're a really good kid. The game says you better execute the pitch." - John Cohen
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What are these rumors about	05/02/09 01:30 PM	Todd4State
Any idea	05/02/09 01:33 PM	ShineOnYouCrazyBulldog
Re: What are these rumors about	05/02/09 01:50 PM	graddawg
The street	05/02/09 02:48 PM	Todd4State
Re: What are these rumors about	05/02/09 02:01 PM	Henry Kissinger
Nah.. our baseball team is already croomian...	05/02/09 02:30 PM	muddawgs33
That's what I thought to	05/02/09 02:50 PM	Todd4State
Re: What are these rumors about	05/02/09 03:00 PM	Henry Kissinger
10 players coming back.....Hell thats 7 more than I'd be returning.	05/02/09 03:08 PM	99jc
How about Polkemon in this case.	05/02/09 03:30 PM	karlchilders
Exactly right	05/02/09 03:43 PM	Todd4State
I hope so!	05/02/09 04:17 PM	karlchilders
So who do you think the rumored 10 will be?*	05/02/09 03:56 PM	JimHalpert.nafoom
First of all	05/02/09 04:08 PM	Todd4State
Re: What are these rumors about	05/02/09 04:38 PM	disturbeddawg
Re: What are these rumors about	05/02/09 06:41 PM	hatfieldms
2nd hand but	05/02/09 04:42 PM	Indndawg
inside scoop on one of our pitching commits	05/02/09 05:11 PM	ababyatemydingo
Considering	05/02/09 09:17 PM	Todd4State
Re: What are these rumors about	05/02/09 10:39 PM	graddawg
That's what makes it suspicious to me	05/02/09 11:16 PM	Todd4State
Re: What are these rumors about	05/03/09 05:02 AM	Mutt the Hoople
It's pretty obvious Todd that the current players are ............	05/03/09 08:46 AM	basedog
I like what I see from the staff to	05/03/09 11:18 AM	Todd4State
I believe we will have 8 to 10 new pitchers........	05/03/09 11:57 AM	basedog

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