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Hector

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04/25/09 04:21 PM

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catching a little hell on his first two picks (RB KnowshonMoreno and DE Robert Ayers) instead of picking up a qb to replace Cutler. He's only 32 but he has coached Brady and Cassell- I'd let him go thru a complete draft before I'd say a whole lot. I might even let him coach a few games before I say he's a stupid SOB.

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bonedaddy401

What QB was he going to draft?

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04/25/09 04:24 PM

Hector wrote:

catching a little hell on his first two picks (RB KnowshonMoreno and DE Robert Ayers) instead of picking up a qb to replace Cutler. He's only 32 but he has coached Brady and Cassell- I'd let him go thru a complete draft before I'd say a whole lot. I might even let him coach a few games before I say he's a stupid SOB.

Freeman? He got a potential homerun hitting RB and a dominant pass rusher. I will take Moreno and Ayers over Freeman all day.

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Hector

I don't know..I didn't hear the "experts"

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04/25/09 04:34 PM

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say what qb would be a good fit. They just seemed really surprised that they haven't replaced Cutler with two first round picks.

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Hector

Plus..I'm with you on the picks..

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04/25/09 04:39 PM

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I don't get the infacuation (sp?) with the "top" qbs in the draft when a very high percentage turn out to be bust.

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jakldawg

Homer alert here...

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04/25/09 05:14 PM

Orton might not be as hideous as everyone thinks, since McDaniels runs the system he played in college, and the Bears didn't. Plus, if all else fails, just hand it off to Superman back there. If nameless RB's consistently gain 1000+ yds. with the Broncos, I'll love to see what Moreno can do. I was surprised they didn't go with a defensive pick first, since it is wretched.

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I'm fine with the pick at 18. I think we could have gone elsewhere with

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04/26/09 12:51 AM

the pick at 12.

However, I'm slowly coming around to accepting the changing of the guards in Denver. McDaniels is following the same blueprint that New England followed for years. They've faired pretty well. They don't always draft need. They go for the best pick.

I do like the fact that we have been very active in the draft along with free agency. I think we have seven more picks.

I am very happy that they didn't draft a QB. I would have rather them told Cutler to shut up and play rather than trade him and draft a QB and start over. At least Orton has experience. I'm starting to convince myself that Orton will do well in Denver. I suppose I would have been fine with them drafting a QB, but neither Sanchez nor Stafford give me the impression of "future stars." McDaniels said today that it was clear Sanchez was going to be too expensive so they decided prior to the day they wouldn't go for him.

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biguglykidjoe

It seems to me that Orton = Wes Carroll

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04/26/09 02:06 AM

As long as you gameplan to his strengths and not ask him to do something outside of his abilities, he won't cost you a game. I could be wrong because I didn't follow da Bears.

"I want to be working very closely with you to help you in any way I can," Keenum told MSU athletic director Greg Byrne. "I want us to be competitive," he said. "I want us to win championships."

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04/26/09 07:11 AM

jakldawg wrote:
Orton might not be as hideous as everyone thinks, since McDaniels runs the system he played in college, and the Bears didn't. Plus, if all else fails, just hand it off to Superman back there. If nameless RB's consistently gain 1000+ yds. with the Broncos, I'll love to see what Moreno can do. I was surprised they didn't go with a defensive pick first, since it is wretched.

Well that all depends on the offensive philosophy.....and the type of blocking scheme that Denver incorporates.....arent they the team that made the "zone" blocking scheme so popular?

You say that McDaniels runs the system that Orton played in college....which would be the same system that Purdue runs no? I don't remember hearing about any of their running backs, just the qb chucking it around......so if that is the case Moreno might suffer as far as rushing the ball?

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jmbeck

Kyle Orton owes you a shot to the nuts.

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04/26/09 10:44 AM

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04/26/09 03:48 PM

The problem with taking Moreno at 12 is the fact that they traded for J.J. Arrington, Correll Buckhalter, and (I think) LaMont Jordan. They also have Peyton Hillis, Ryan Torain, Andrew Pinnock, and Selvin Young on the roster. RB wasn't a team need, they should have gone after Peria or traded up for Rajji after giving up 5.0 ypc last year. Defense should have been the only goal.

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04/26/09 03:56 PM

With Otepka still on the board he should have been taken at 12. Knowshon would have still been there at 18

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Fratrebel.nafoom

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04/26/09 05:09 PM

I assume you're talking about Orakpo?

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HD6

The whole Denver situation....

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04/26/09 05:14 PM

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is just odd, I have always considered them a top-flight organization. But now, they look like they are on the precipice of a big collapse. If they weren't in such a weak division, it would be far worse.

Or Josh McDaniels could be the next Bill Walsh, we'll see.

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biguglykidjoe

Considering his accuracy, that punch could land anywhere from knees to neck.

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04/26/09 05:29 PM

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"I want to be working very closely with you to help you in any way I can," Keenum told MSU athletic director Greg Byrne. "I want us to be competitive," he said. "I want us to win championships."

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Fratrebel.nafoom

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04/26/09 09:59 PM

He's acting more like the next Lane Kiffin.

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UCantStop15

Horrible analogy..

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04/27/09 08:14 AM

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Kyle Orton ain't Dan Marino, but you can win in the NFL with him. He's more than serviceable. Carroll, on the other hand, should not be playing football at the D1 level.. unless it's 1-AA

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PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA

If I'm not mistaken, I thought one of the Cutler/Orton articles said

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04/27/09 11:02 AM

Orton has a better winning percentage than Cutler.

FWIW...

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biguglykidjoe

My point was that you have to make sure that you don't ask him to do too much.

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04/27/09 11:18 AM

Passing
Year	Team	G	Att	Comp	Pct	Att/G	Yds	Avg	Yds/G	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	20+	40+	Sck	SckY	Rate
2008	Chicago Bears	15	465	272	58.5	31.0	2,972	6.4	198.1	18	3.9	12	2.6	65T	34	3	27	160	79.6

2007	Chicago Bears	3	80	43	53.8	26.7	478	6.0	159.3	3	3.8	2	2.5	55T	3	1	2	12	73.9

2006	Chicago Bears	0	--	--	--	0.0	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	0.0

2005	Chicago Bears	15	368	190	51.6	24.5	1,869	5.1	124.6	9	2.4	13	3.5	54	23	3	30	190	59.7

TOTAL		33	913	505	55.3	27.7	5,319	5.8	161.2	30	3.3	27	3.0	65	60	7	59	362	71.1

"I want to be working very closely with you to help you in any way I can," Keenum told MSU athletic director Greg Byrne. "I want us to be competitive," he said. "I want us to win championships."

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Josh McDaniels (Broncos coach)	04/25/09 04:21 PM	Hector
What QB was he going to draft?	04/25/09 04:24 PM	bonedaddy401
I don't know..I didn't hear the "experts"	04/25/09 04:34 PM	Hector
Plus..I'm with you on the picks..	04/25/09 04:39 PM	Hector
Homer alert here...	04/25/09 05:14 PM	jakldawg
It seems to me that Orton = Wes Carroll	04/26/09 02:06 AM	biguglykidjoe
Kyle Orton owes you a shot to the nuts.	04/26/09 10:44 AM	jmbeck
Considering his accuracy, that punch could land anywhere from knees to neck.	04/26/09 05:29 PM	biguglykidjoe
Horrible analogy..	04/27/09 08:14 AM	UCantStop15
If I'm not mistaken, I thought one of the Cutler/Orton articles said	04/27/09 11:02 AM	PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA
My point was that you have to make sure that you don't ask him to do too much.	04/27/09 11:18 AM	biguglykidjoe
Re: Josh McDaniels (Broncos coach)	04/26/09 07:11 AM	beachbumdawg
Re: Josh McDaniels (Broncos coach)	04/26/09 03:48 PM	Fratrebel.nafoom
The whole Denver situation....	04/26/09 05:14 PM	HD6
Re: Josh McDaniels (Broncos coach)	04/26/09 09:59 PM	Fratrebel.nafoom
I'm fine with the pick at 18. I think we could have gone elsewhere with	04/26/09 12:51 AM	PosterFormerlyKnownAsRFAA
Re: Josh McDaniels (Broncos coach)	04/26/09 03:56 PM	cheat2win
Re: Josh McDaniels (Broncos coach)	04/26/09 05:09 PM	Fratrebel.nafoom

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