According to Mark Schlabach's Top 25, five of our seven home games next year are against 5 of the top 13 teams in the country. That's absolutely brutal.
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Our home schedule next year is kinda hard. |
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 hdghdawg |
Too bad for you, an ace is always an ace in poker | #21 | ||
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Posts: 90 02/09/09 02:46 PM |
Arkansas could be much improved, so could Kentucky. Florida could have a hangover year, like LSU. What if Tebow gets injured? Saban had an average year in
'02 after winning the SEC in '01.
Like I said, I think you all are stupid for arguing. My post was trying to prove that I was somewhere in the middle. Bottom line is, you don't know who's going to be the good teams, so what does the schedule matter. But I also don't think we're a bottom feeder. |
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8Dog |
You don't get the argument... | #22 | ||
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Posts: 5625 02/09/09 02:49 PM Message Board Hero |
an assumption upon which both of our arguments is based is that there is a group of home opponents that is not as good as the other group.
If Arkansas, Vandy, Kentucky, and Auburn end up being the four best teams in the conf and LSU, Bama, OM, and Florida are the four worst, then we have a great home schedule. In a year like next year, I want to play the 4 worst SEC opponents on our schedule--whoever they are. |
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VegasDawg13 |
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Posts: 885 02/09/09 02:54 PM |
My God, you're right. We are such idiots for arguing a sports-related topic on a sports board.
I will now spend my time arguing with people about arguing about sports on a sports message board. I have joined the ranks of the righteous. |
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hdghdawg |
If I knew for a fact that we would suck | #24 | ||
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Posts: 91 02/09/09 02:55 PM |
and I knew for a fact that that group of home games was the worst teams in the SEC then yeah I'd probably want some guaranteed wins. I get that part.
My side is that it's not a realistic argument. You can't make assumptions like that in football, or sports in general. But for offseason message boarding, yeah you're right. I hope our players think they can beat whoever they play. I honestly don't think Croom instilled that confidence, so it's taking me a while to get out of that line of thinking. but I'm trying hard. |
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8Dog |
We agree* | #25 | ||
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Posts: 5626 02/09/09 03:02 PM Message Board Hero |
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OMlawdog |
I can't believe I missed out on this thread... | #26 | ||
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Posts: 948 02/09/09 03:15 PM |
Ronny would rather play:
LSU, FL, Bama, UGA at home, and UPIG, Vandy, UK, AU on the road? That gives you a good chance to get to 6 wins? I think Ronny is pulling everyone's chains. This has to be sarcasm. No one logically thinks this is a good idea. Next thing you know, he will be saying that a 245 lb HB is a perfect fit for the spread offense. |
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fishwater99 |
Croom is no longer our coach, we can win the easy games now... | #27 | ||
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Posts: 2054 02/09/09 03:54 PM Lives and Dies by Repeat Posting
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I am pretty sure our new coach would agree with 8dog... 
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VegasDawg13 |
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Posts: 888 02/09/09 03:58 PM |
I'm not sure if you misunderstood my post, or if you replied to the wrong post, but I also agree with 8dog.
And I bet Mullen would say that it doesn't matter to him or his players because they expect to win every game they play, regardless of opponent or location. |
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RonnyAtmosphere |
Not you aGAIN... | #29 | ||
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Posts: 2802 02/09/09 04:22 PM Chairman of the National Archives
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Yes, I would rather play Bama, LSU & UF at home. Just like Mullen would rather play LSU, Bama & UF at home. Just like every other coach with any
common sense would.
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OMlawdog |
Any coach with common sense.... | #30 | ||
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Posts: 955 02/09/09 04:32 PM |
Tries to win as many games as possible.
Its remarkable how dumb this post is actually. It is so dumb that DS made a poll to show your stupidity. How have I been nailed on my Dixon stupidity? He flourished when running behind a strong OL out of base formations in 2007. He has never ran the ball consistently out of a spread offense and I think he will struggle, you don't. You think Anthony Dixon is a great receiver out of the backfield, depsite the fact that he has a whopping 326 yards in receiving in 3 years at MSU. There are so many posts in this thread that make you look retarded I really don't need to go any further. |
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RonnyAtmosphere |
I get it. You are not a lawyer in real life... | #31 | ||
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Posts: 2804 02/09/09 04:50 PM Chairman of the National Archives
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...you just play one on the internet message boards.
Because there is no way in hell a real life lawyer could be as freaking stupid as you. Please, I beg you to e-mail (or whatever venue of communucation you choose) Nutt & ask him, if forced to make a choice, would he play Bama @ home or Kentucky @ home. The answer he will give you will settle this debate once and for all. As for Dixon, your whole Dixon bashing shtick is just that...a Dixon bashing shtick. The thought that an idiot like you knows how the 2009 season is going to play out for Anthony Dixon is as sad as it is laughable. |
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8Dog |
Just one last time...let me ask it this way... | #32 | ||
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Posts: 5631 02/09/09 04:52 PM Message Board Hero |
If someone told you "Ronny, I'll give you $1 million if State wins 6 games next year. You can't change the non conf sched. but you can determine
which 4 teams play in Starkville and which 4 State has to play on the road"
You would still choose to play the difficult teams at home? |
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OMlawdog |
You do understand the difference between MSU and Ole Miss? | #33 | ||
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Posts: 957 02/09/09 04:56 PM |
If you ask most people, most would say that Ole Miss should be good next year, most fans, including most MSU fans would say that next year will be a rebuilding
year.
That is the crucial difference. One team expects to be good, One team hopes to go to a bowl. I want to play Bama at home, and I would rather play UK on the road next year only. Now if the following year, Ole Miss loses a ton of players and is predicted to go 6-6 at best, and Bama was preseason Top 5, i would want to play Bama on the road and UK at home. You do understand the difference? Do I need to use pictures and maybe smaller words? |
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Uncle Leo |
Question for you, Ronny... | #34 | ||
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Posts: 2084 02/09/09 05:16 PM |
What probability would you say that MSU wins in EACH of the following situations...
@Bama Bama at home @LSU LSU at home @Kentucky Kentucky at home @Vanderbilt Vanderbilt at home There's someone in my head but it's not me. |
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Brutius |
You and OMLawDog are worse than coach34 changing your arguments mid thread.... | #35 | ||
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Posts: 6136 02/09/09 05:28 PM The Cooler |
Is the question which is better to win exactly 6 games? Or which is better overall? Hopefully the goal of MSU and every other SEC team is to win more than 6 games. If they only want that many, then there is a bigger issue. I really don't care that some guy on a message board (myself included) thinks that this year will or won't be a rebuilding year. The fact is, noone knows what will happen and I'd personally rather play those teams at home and have a better chance to win. MSU beating Florida or Alabama next year would be a much greater impact than losing to Vandy or Kentucky would be a negative impact whether we make a bowl or not. |
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Posts: 891 02/09/09 05:58 PM |
I think he's looking at it as, "What is most likely to get us to a bowl game?"
That's how I'm looking at it because I think us making a bowl game of any kind would be a pretty big accomplishment this season. There are years I would agree with you where 6-6 isn't a high enough goal, but I think that's the best we can hope for this year. You were correct earlier in saying that we are taking a pessimistic stance; it is definitely that. I just feel that with our schedule the way it is, we aren't favored as of right now in a single SEC game. Vandy is the only one I'm up in the air on. I think if you switched the home and road games, we become the favorite in 3, possibly all 4 home games. That would make a bowl game much more reachable. |
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OMlawdog |
This is exactly what 8dog, DS and myself have been saying.... | #37 | ||
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Posts: 961 02/09/09 06:07 PM |
Im done with this topic. If you can't agree with what VegasDawg says here, Im not sure what else could be said.
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Brutius |
We just agree to disagree then.... | #38 | ||
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Posts: 6138 02/09/09 06:38 PM The Cooler |
because you, 8dog, and all the other people agreeing with you are saying the best we can do is 6 wins, and I am saying I'd rather play those hard teams at
home to win more than 6. You are a pessimist and I want us to beat those teams. You've marked the games down as losses regardless of where they are played,
and I have not. That's the difference.
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SLUdog |
I say we have a good chance to beat Vandy anywhere.... | #39 | ||
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Posts: 3850 02/09/09 06:41 PM |
but would rather play at home naturally.
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8Dog |
Im a realistic guy... | #40 | ||
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Posts: 5633 02/09/09 07:51 PM Message Board Hero |
I'd love to win 10 games next year, but that's not going to happen. If Mark Keenum walked into MSU and said "I want us to be ranked higher than
Harvard in academics in 5 years", I would think the guy is the wrong person to lead our university. To say Im changing my argument is ridiculous. The
whole point to the caveat "in a year we'll probably be bad" or the like is to make people focus on the fact that 6-7 wins is probably the goal.
Hell, the best team we've had in 8 years won only 7 regular season games.
Anyone with any sense knows that 6 wins is an admirable goal for our program next year and is what we need to have another good recruiting year. Its easier to reach that goal when your toss ups are at home. Disappointing that so many people can't get this. Hell, its the exact reason we blast Templeton for scheduling West Virginia when the program was rebuilding. You use the Tubby-OM plan. Schedule nothing but easy non conf games to give yourself the best chance to win and get to a bowl so then you can sell your program.
Last Edited By: 8Dog 02/09/09 07:58 PM.
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