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Breaking news.... |
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Posts: 1327 01/30/09 09:55 AM |
...Rebels "likely to have 10 win season" next Fall per Bruiser....
...that is all. Oh yeah, and the Tillman saga grows even funnier. Apparently Orgeron is after him. |
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VegasDawg13 |
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Posts: 868 01/30/09 11:11 AM |
To say that the Egg Bowl for 2009 should be looked at as a toss-up at this point is pure homerism. There is no reason to think we will be as good as them next
season.
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DowntownDawg |
Since the game returned to campus in 1991.... | #22 | ||
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Posts: 1332 01/30/09 11:23 AM |
....the winner has alternated every year but 4. This usually happens when one time is substantially better than the other. If the teams are anywhere near
close, the team who lost the year before usually wins. This may very well be a year where we are just totally outclassed by them, but those are very rare.
It's a tossup at this point. If we go into November with 2 wins and they are rolling in with 8, it no longer becomes a tossup.
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 CalNaughtonJr |
They will win 6 games next year | #23 | ||
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Posts: 61 01/30/09 11:27 AM |
and play in the Indy Bowl against Texas Tech and get beat badly. Sort of a Payback type thing.
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Posts: 38 01/30/09 11:32 AM |
look at the way UGA ended the 2007 season. Looked like a championship team the last 5 games of the season. Enter preseason 2008 as number 1 and they lost 3
games this year. (or was it 4?) They are much more talented than UM (based on recruiting sites) and they didn't even have any key injury losses. To say
they will have 10 win season is stretching it by a long shot.
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saltybulldog |
I would not favor them against LSU or Bama | #25 | ||
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Posts: 3644 01/30/09 11:33 AM |
While Bama's offense is in question, they have tons of talent and will be fine. Their defense is going to be scary.
LSU's offense is going to be much better and their D is going to be pretty good too. I would favor them in the other 9 and wait to see who mystery team 12 is. 
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Posts: 3031 01/30/09 12:29 PM Literally a Cocksucker
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jack wrote: UGA lost 19 players to season ending injuries, including the majority of their offensive line. They had MAJOR injury issues, and they still only lost 3 games (2 of them to Top 10 teams). UGA plays last season healthy, and they are every bit of a Top 5 team. |
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Posts: 3032 01/30/09 12:33 PM Literally a Cocksucker
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wbc40 wrote: Oher is a big loss. However, he wasn't nearly as important to our offense as Smith was to Bama's. Bama ran behind Smith and basically rode him to having a successful offense. Even when they decided to go to the right side consistently in the Auburn game, it worked primarily because Auburn was playing the game expecting Bama to continue to run left. Smith was the primary catalyst for Alabama's run game, even on plays that weren't run his way. With us this past year, when we needed a big yard, we ran to the right, behind John Jerry, not behind Oher. Oher was bigger for us as a pass blocker than a run blocker. Jerry was our road grader. We'll see if Sowell or someone else can step in and do a good job of pass blocking at LT this year, but the focus of our run offense really won't be any different this year than it was last year. We'll still be running behind Jerry this year. |
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Posts: 561 01/30/09 12:45 PM |
OM may very well win 10 next year but I doubt it. You don't loose the talent you are loosing and expect to be better. Jerry, Oher, Palmer, Miller, the
other OL I cannot remember, and Wallace and expect to win the West. Your DL will be good next year, but your OL will be weaker regardless of what you say.
Wallace could go deep and take a corner and safty with him and leave Hodge one on one with a small corner. Unless I am missing someone you don't have
another Wallace on campus. Without that dominate OL the wild rebel will be contained.
I think you OM fans are drinking to much kool aid and reading to many headlines. |
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Optimus Prime 4 |
so why do you think the Island goes through time on Loost?** | #29 | ||
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Posts: 6243 01/30/09 12:49 PM Cobra Kai Sensei |
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Posts: 3033 01/30/09 12:58 PM Literally a Cocksucker
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That brings up the question, during that span (since 1991), how many of times did the home team win in a game that would've been considered a decent upset?
Here is the research. I've highlighted the games where the road team won.
1991 (S): 7-5 MSU beats 5-6 Ole Miss 1992 (O): 9-3 Ole Miss beats 7-5 MSU 1993 (S): 5-6 Ole Miss beats 3-6-2 MSU (not counting the Bama forfeits) 1994 (O): 8-4 MSU beats 4-7 Ole Miss 1995 (S): 6-5 Ole Miss beats 3-8 MSU 1996 (O): 5-6 MSU beats 5-6 Ole Miss 1997 (S): 8-4 Ole Miss beats 7-4 MSU 1998 (O): 8-5 MSU beats 7-5 Ole Miss 1999 (S): 10-2 MSU beats 8-4 Ole Miss 2000 (O): 7-5 Ole Miss beats 8-4 MSU 2001 (S): 3-8 MSU beats 7-4 Ole Miss 2002 (O): 7-6 Ole Miss beats 3-9 MSU 2003 (S): 10-3 Ole Miss beats 2-10 MSU 2004 (O): 4-7 Ole Miss beats 3-8 MSU 2005 (S): 3-8 MSU beats 3-8 Ole Miss 2006 (O): 4-8 Ole Miss beats 3-9 MSU 2007 (S): 7-5 MSU beats 3-9 Ole Miss 2008 (O): 9-4 Ole Miss beats 4-8 MSU So, you're right, there is a trend there. Since 1999, the road team has only won the Egg Bowl once. It is interesting though that prior to 1999, the road team won 6 straight Egg Bowls. Just looking at the most recent string, the home team has won 9 of the last 10 Egg Bowls. However, when you look at the records, there is only one time (2001) where the home team won in what you might consider an upset. In each of the other Egg Bowls, you'd have to say it was either a toss up, or one team would've definitely been the favorite, at least based on record. You might could argue that our win in 2000 was an upset as well, but it wouldn't have been considered a big upset. |
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pujols |
wow | #31 | ||
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Posts: 298 01/30/09 01:03 PM |
bulldogbaja wrote: That is some quality stupid right there! |
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hdghdawg |
Either way Smith was a blocker or a decoy that's to be respected | #32 | ||
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Posts: 50 01/30/09 01:22 PM |
Same with Mike Brown and same with Michael Oher.
Stop trying to prove a point that's not there, because you end up contradicting yourself. |
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msudawg12 |
kind of hijacking the comment but.... | #33 | ||
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Posts: 265 01/30/09 01:23 PM |
has anyone else seen the way the scouts were talking about Oher's technique and upright playing style and how i he doesnt change it, he will get whooped in
the NFL. Alot of this was said during the senior bowl and thus they moved him down in ranks of top tackles draft list
*worthy to note that I do like Oher and watching him dominate, I also thought he was one of the best lineman in the nation this year. |
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lawdawg02 |
wow - we were a combined 18-6 in 1999. | #34 | ||
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Posts: 2239 01/30/09 01:29 PM One Call, That's All
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oh, for the good ole days, when the egg bowl really meant something for both teams.
"I saw Wedding Crashers accidentally. I bought a ticket for Grizzly Man and went into the wrong theater. After an hour, I figured I was in the wrong theater, but I kept waiting. That’s the thing about bear attacks. They come when you least expect it." - Dwight Schrute |
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bulldogbaja |
I guess logic counts as stupid | #35 | ||
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Posts: 571 01/30/09 01:41 PM |
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Overall SEC Championships:
Big 3 sports, last 30 years: MSU 6,UM ZERO Big 3 sports, since 1965: MSU 10, UM 3 Big 3 sports, all time: MSU 17, UM 12 All sports, all time: MSU 28, UM 18 |
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DowntownDawg |
I think tha't s the nature of a rivalry game... | #36 | ||
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Posts: 1334 01/30/09 02:10 PM |
....and cliches are cliches for a reason "Throw out the records," etc. The team that wants it more usually wins. And that team is usually the team
with fire in the belly from losing last year. Two SEC teams are typically going to have comparable talent. In fact, look at the years that a team won two in
a row: State won their 2nd in a row in 1994. State had a very solid team that year and you guys were not very good. State won their 2nd in a row in 1999,
which might've been State's best team ever, even though you guys were solid, there was a big difference. Ole Miss won consecutively in 2003 (Eli's
Senior Season + Jackie Quit Football) and 2004 (First year coach was unprepared, Thanks Croom), and that's it.
Now, OM could have their version of the 99 team next year, and we could awful, but it will take something like that to buck the trend. If we are competitive and have anything to play for and you guys are anything but worldbeaters, we'll take back the egg. |
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Posts: 3037 01/30/09 03:21 PM Literally a Cocksucker
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That's what I think the problem will be. Like I said before, I think your offense will be a little bit improved. It couldn't be worse. However, I think
your defense is getting ready to take a step back, which may counterbalance your offensive improvement.
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Posts: 3038 01/30/09 03:28 PM Literally a Cocksucker
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Well, I guess Alabama won't win the West either since they lost Smith, Coffee, Wilson, Antoine Caldwell, and Rashad Johnson.
And I guess LSU won't win it either since they lost Demetrius Byrd, Herman Johnson, Brett Helms, and three of their DL starters (5 of 8 on the DL two deep). Point being, every team loses players, and every team loses key contributors. That's just the way it works. And no we don't have someone with Wallace's speed at WR. Lionel Breaux is close, and he'll get a lot of Wallace's snaps. And another guy that will get those snaps is 6-6 Melvin Harris. We do lose a lot of key players, but the only spot where we have big questions heading into next year is the OL. There isn't a team in the SEC (besides Florida) that doesn't have questions at at least one position heading into next season. That's the way it works. |
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patdog |
One thing you're not considering. | #39 | ||
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Posts: 10508 01/30/09 03:35 PM |
Bama and LSU have absolutely kicked ass recruiting in recent years (Bama pretty much just last year and this year). They're loaded with players to step in
and replace those guys. Y'all don't have that kind of depth of talent. You should have another very good season next year, but you guys thinking
you're going to improve on this season aren't being too realistic. It might happen. But just as likely is that you finish a win or 2 worse than this
year (which is still a good season).
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VegasDawg13 |
Or you could look at those... | #40 | ||
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Posts: 869 01/30/09 03:57 PM |
and realize that the team with the better record heading into the game won 12, the team with a worse record won four, and twice we had the same record. This to
me is much more relevant than the "every other year except sometimes" trend. The better team usually wins. Any unbiased observer would think that Ole
Miss will not only be better than us next year but significantly better. At this point they are the unquestioned favorite in the Egg Bowl. If you are
projecting what they will do next season, we have to be considered in the probable wins.
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