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VirgilCain	Did anyone just see ESPN "Outside the Lines" backhand us aGAIN?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 110 12/16/08 02:22 PM	Tags : None They were talking about Auburn and possible racial motives. Bob Ley says something like "well did MSU hiring of Sly Croom help anything, he was given a fair shot with 5 years before he resigned." The panel without hesitation had a consensus of "well its Mississippi State, he was placed in an impossible situation.... so, no" When will it STOP!! I wanted to throw my shoes at the TV i.e. George Bush. Edit: Also Finebaum was one of the panelist and it was pretty funny how bad he was ripping into Auburn. "The Night they drove ole' Dixie down, when all the bells where ringin'.... " - The Band Last Edited By: VirgilCain 12/16/08 05:44 PM. Edited 2 times.
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DerHntr	good coaches turn programs around. period.	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2710 12/16/08 02:29 PM Dr. Death	the impossible situation or not given good jobs crap is just that...crap. it may have some affect on it but it is not the determining factor. these idiots act like croom would have NOT made stupid decisions throughout his 5 years if he had coached at LSU or Bama or Texas. he would likely have won with the previous coaches players a little bit more but then it would have gone down hill. he is not a head coach. edit: can't spell today Last Edited By: DerHntr 12/16/08 02:31 PM. Edited 1 time.
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DogStuckAtUM	It'll stop when we win. But even then it'll be because supposedly we cheat.	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 697 12/16/08 02:30 PM	Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Anti Dawg.nafoom	Talking heads have to have something to talk about	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 168 12/16/08 02:31 PM	nm
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hullabaloodog	Impossible to compete at the level of Florida, Georgia, and LSU year in and year out...Yes.	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 132 12/16/08 02:39 PM	Impossible to be competitive and go bowling 2 out of 3 years, NO! A coach who can come here and keep us competitive and and go bowling every couple of years can be considered a god. I'm tired of the impossible argument as well. If ESPN can ignore Croom's ignorance as a head coach, it just shows the lack of depth in their analysis. I work with a lot of people who are out of touch with SEC football and MSU football even more, every time I would mention how upset I was with Croom and how I wanted him gone they would respond with the typical 'You're Mississippi State, it's not Croom's fault. He's a great coach. Nobody has a chance to be successful there." So, I started sending e-mails and links everytime Croom would do something idiotic, and by the end of the season I had most of them convinced. If ESPN (and other national media outlets) would take a closer look, they'd see exactly what we saw. A guy who had no business being a head coach at the college level, maybe not any level.
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VirgilCain	Exactly, the media has serious double standards	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 111 12/16/08 02:41 PM	They praise Gill for turning around an "impossible situation" at Buffalo, yet in reference to Croom its always "well he didnt really get a shot at HC because MSU is an impossible coaching situation." Well the only way for an unknown commodity to get a big time gig is to make some noise at one of those "impossible situations." I wish just one semi-prominent journalist would come out and say that they don't think Croom is a good coach. "The Night they drove ole' Dixie down, when all the bells where ringin'.... " - The Band
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Hanmudog	This BS about "the worst job in America" is ridiculous.	#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3238 12/16/08 03:00 PM	A quick google reveals a ton of teams with bowl droughts lasting more than ten years. To name a few: New Mexico State, Kent State, Temple, SMU, Duke, Indiana, Baylor, Army, Arizona, Idaho, and Vandy (prior to this year anyway). We can pack out a 50+ thousand seat stadium. We have the 2nd largest video screen in the nation, great facilites, and access to some of the most talented players in America. Jeez I hope Mullen can shut some of them up. As bad as we have sucked we still have been to 4 bowls in the last 10 years.
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thunderclap	Best PR job LT ever did. And Croom latched on....	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1167 12/16/08 03:20 PM	that shit drives me crazy because it's so ridiculous. Hopefully, that'll all be way behind us here in a couple of years.
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thunderclap	I'd like somebody to explain to me...	#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1168 12/16/08 03:22 PM	how winning only 3 games in your first year and winning only 3 games in your fifth year and actually getting worse statistically has NOTHING TO DO WITH COACHING? Aaarrrgggghhhh!
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Original48	Good news is when teams with the records that Hanmudog put up there and	#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 208 12/16/08 03:32 PM	others like them is that they can now hire white coaches only with a clear conscious. And so can we for that matter. When the NAACP/BCA comes a calling, simply refer to these reports and experts and explain that we did not want to put them in an "impossible situation."
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UpTheMiddlex3Punt	Why do you hate black people?	#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1490 12/16/08 03:33 PM	I fired Croom
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state20006	typical of espn	#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 104 12/16/08 03:46 PM	i can't believe this network is actually the best america can do in sports broadcasting. a high percentage of the opinions of the mississippi state's of the sporting world are totally misinformed. how hard is it to tell your secretary or intern to sit at their computer and look up the last 25 years of coaches in the sec and see how many of those coaches kept their job after 5 years with a record as bad as croom's? or better yet they could look up the winning percentage of coaches in the sec in the last 25 years against non-bcs schools or non-d-1 schools. without even looking i can guarentee you croom had the worst record among those coaches. expectations are high in the sec no matter what school you're at. all this is is pure laziness on espn's part. cbs needs to get off their ass and get a 100% all sports (not just college) channel.
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RonnyAtmosphere	If Miss. State is "an impossible situation"...	#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2537 12/16/08 04:48 PM Chairman of the National Archives	...then Croom would not have gone 8-5 in 2007. What the media idiots do not get is Croom proved in 2007 you can win @ MSU. But then Croom proved he was not capable of sustaining success @MSU by going 4-8 the next year with essentially the same players. Hence MSU didn't victimize Croom (which is the prevailing media narrative); Croom's shitty coaching victimized MSU. Anyway, isn't "Outside the Lines" where a bunch of retards yell at each other all show?
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karlchilders	They should be forced to pay his salary, and then forced to watch every play for 5 years,	#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 477 12/16/08 05:41 PM	they would change their tune on that deal, say "uncle"
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thelaw	You have to remember...	#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 176 12/16/08 05:46 PM	it is so much easier for ESPN to discuss Crxxms being black, fired because he's black, or his character, than it is for them to discuss Crxxms burning what was left of our football program to the ground and pissing on the ashes. National media will always walk very lightly on the "pc" egg shells.
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KurtRambis4	Screw 'em!	#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3078 12/16/08 05:49 PM	They are a puss on society. +1 for ronny's archive and no capitalization
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Did anyone just see ESPN "Outside the Lines" backhand us aGAIN?	12/16/08 02:22 PM	VirgilCain
good coaches turn programs around. period.	12/16/08 02:29 PM	DerHntr
Impossible to compete at the level of Florida, Georgia, and LSU year in and year out...Yes.	12/16/08 02:39 PM	hullabaloodog
Exactly, the media has serious double standards	12/16/08 02:41 PM	VirgilCain
They should be forced to pay his salary, and then forced to watch every play for 5 years,	12/16/08 05:41 PM	karlchilders
It'll stop when we win. But even then it'll be because supposedly we cheat.	12/16/08 02:30 PM	DogStuckAtUM
Talking heads have to have something to talk about	12/16/08 02:31 PM	Anti Dawg.nafoom
This BS about "the worst job in America" is ridiculous.	12/16/08 03:00 PM	Hanmudog
Best PR job LT ever did. And Croom latched on....	12/16/08 03:20 PM	thunderclap
Good news is when teams with the records that Hanmudog put up there and	12/16/08 03:32 PM	Original48
I'd like somebody to explain to me...	12/16/08 03:22 PM	thunderclap
Why do you hate black people?	12/16/08 03:33 PM	UpTheMiddlex3Punt
typical of espn	12/16/08 03:46 PM	state20006
You have to remember...	12/16/08 05:46 PM	thelaw
If Miss. State is "an impossible situation"...	12/16/08 04:48 PM	RonnyAtmosphere
Screw 'em!	12/16/08 05:49 PM	KurtRambis4

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